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Topic # 247989 5-Mar-2019 23:07
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The archaic blasphemous libel offence will be repealed following the passing of the Crimes Amendment Bill today, says Justice Minister Andrew Little.

 

“The offence of blasphemous libel has not been prosecuted in New Zealand since 1922, and raises potential Bill of Rights Act concerns. This obsolete provision has no place in a modern society which protects freedom of expression,” says Andrew Little.

 

 “To maintain public confidence in the law, the criminal code should be relevant to modern society. No prosecutions for blasphemy have occurred in New Zealand for almost a century, and even in that case the jury returned a not guilty verdict.

 

 “This is a law that simply does not apply in the modern context. The last time a blasphemous libel case was considered, in 1998, the Solicitor-General rejected a call to commence a criminal prosecution under the law. The view was expressed that it would be inconsistent with the freedom of expression as protected by the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.

 

“The continued existence of this offence on the statute books was out of place with New Zealand’s position as a bastion of human rights, including recognising freedom of expression and religious tolerance for all faiths.

 

“I acknowledge the work on this area of the law by Angie Warren-Clark who had a Member's Bill repealing the same section,” says Andrew Little.

 

The Crimes Amendment Bill also repeals the historic ‘year and a day rule’ and spousal immunity for people who help their spouse or civil union partner evade the law as an accessory after the fact, as well as introduces two new offences for livestock rustling.

 

 

 





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Reply # 2191844 5-Mar-2019 23:13
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Bill repeals two archaic measures and introduces two new offenses for..

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  Reply # 2191862 5-Mar-2019 23:55
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It'd be great if we outlawed organised religion, especially the dreadful Abrahamic trio.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2192059 6-Mar-2019 12:09
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Jumpin' jesus, it's about time they fixed the blasphemy laws!


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  Reply # 2192751 7-Mar-2019 08:33
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dejadeadnz:

 

It'd be great if we outlawed organised religion, especially the dreadful Abrahamic trio.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure you can claim any one religious group is worse than any others...


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  Reply # 2192804 7-Mar-2019 09:01
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I'm not sure you can claim any one religious group is worse than any others...

 

 

But it is certainly true that some religions have had more violence and atrocities committed in their name than others.




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  Reply # 2192806 7-Mar-2019 09:03
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Paul1977:

 

DaveDog:

 

I'm not sure you can claim any one religious group is worse than any others...

 

 

But it is certainly true that some religions have had more violence and atrocities committed in their name than others.

 

 

When? In what timeline scale?

 

ISIS? Al-Qaeda? Crusades? The Inquisition? Child molesting? Women mistreatment?

 

You can probably find violence anywhere, if you extend the scale...





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When? In what timeline scale?

 

ISIS? Al-Qaeda? Crusades? The Inquisition? Child molesting? Women mistreatment?

 

You can probably find violence anywhere, if you extend the scale...

 

 

I've never heard of violent Buddhist extremists for example - but I haven't researched it either so might be wrong.

 

Now, I personally think all religions are pretty ridiculous - but in the modern era at least, extreme forms of Christianity and Islam would appear to be the most harmful to society as a whole. But maybe this is just a natural consequence of them being the two largest religions.




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  Reply # 2192813 7-Mar-2019 09:23
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Paul1977:

 

I've never heard of violent Buddhist extremists for example - but I haven't researched it either so might be wrong.

 

 

Ah, but there is...





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Religion isn't a problem. Lack of tolerance is a problem.

 

Most of the worlds issues could be resolved if people were more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. 

 

 


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Religion isn't a problem. Lack of tolerance is a problem.

 

Most of the worlds issues could be resolved if people were more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. 

 

 

 

 

Certain religions teach intolerance, so that gets back to the paradox as to whether to be tolerant of intolerance.

 

 


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networkn:

 

Religion isn't a problem. Lack of tolerance is a problem.

 

Most of the worlds issues could be resolved if people were more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. 

 

 

 

 

Certain religions teach intolerance, so that gets back to the paradox as to whether to be tolerant of intolerance.

 

 

 

 

Even if that's true, even if we cut intolerance by 50%, the world would be 90% better off. 

 

 


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  Reply # 2193936 8-Mar-2019 20:22
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networkn:

 

Religion isn't a problem. Lack of tolerance is a problem.

 

Most of the worlds issues could be resolved if people were more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. 

 

 

Certain religions teach intolerance, so that gets back to the paradox as to whether to be tolerant of intolerance.

 

 

 

 

Can you name a religion that doesn't show a degree of intolerance?


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networkn:

 

Even if that's true, even if we cut intolerance by 50%, the world would be 90% better off. 

 

 

Yet another one of these random, circular arguments from you that starts from a questionable premise. How did you get to the value judgment above? And on what basis did you conclude that if "intolerance" were cut by 50% -- as though the concept of intolerance is readily quantifiable -- the world will be "90% better off"? What does "90% better off" mean?

 

One could far more plausibly argue that intolerance would be much lessened if people would become better educated, if society actually through action and proper incentives actually elevate the status of reasoned analysis and debate, and if people would actually engage their brain before spouting off. That's because extreme intolerance generally allows for no account of logic, reason, and consistency. But notice how my claim is a far narrower and less definitive than yours?

 

Sometimes evidence matters.

 

 

 

 


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