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#2550714 27-Aug-2020 14:29

freitasm:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/321393/victim-irate-as-burglar-posts-on-facebook-from-prison

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/87979270/cellphones-in-cells-wellington-prisoner-updates-social-media-chats-with-friends-from-behind-bars

There's always an idiot who don't follow the rules...

Just to correct myself, he'll be a maximum security category. The odd burglar or druggie might manage to get stuff snuck in for them but the chances of pulling it off whilst on solitary confinement is certainly much lower.

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#2550716 27-Aug-2020 14:35

I suspect he will be on Suicide watch given he'll be isolated in prison

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#2550722 27-Aug-2020 14:48

DjShadow:

I suspect he will be on Suicide watch given he'll be isolated in prison

Being exceptionally uncharitable, I wouldn't provide that. If he off's himself, that would be fine with me.

No doubt no expense will instead be spared in ensuring he doesn't though.

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#2550725 27-Aug-2020 14:53

networkn:

Being exceptionally uncharitable, I wouldn't provide that. If he off's himself, that would be fine with me.

No doubt no expense will instead be spared in ensuring he doesn't though.

If he manages to top himself, he will serve as a martyr for a huge band of losers.

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#2550726 27-Aug-2020 14:54

dejadeadnz:

networkn:

Being exceptionally uncharitable, I wouldn't provide that. If he off's himself, that would be fine with me.

No doubt no expense will instead be spared in ensuring he doesn't though.

If he manages to top himself, he will serve as a martyr for a huge band of losers.

Sure, everything has it's pros and cons. They could just as easily delude themselves into cheering the amount of money that is spent in keeping him incarcerated.

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#2550744 27-Aug-2020 15:17

Can we bill australia for holding this piece of crap? It all seems very one sided when they deport people who have lived there for years, if we're not deporting this winner I reckon they should have to pay for his imprisonment. Yeah, tit for tat but idc

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#2550747 27-Aug-2020 15:21

I am not sure if that's possible or desirable (legally at least).

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#2550754 27-Aug-2020 15:37

It is a pity that he was born in Australia. It means we cannot use damnatio memoriae and erase him

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#2550848 27-Aug-2020 18:40

Ship him back to Aussie for lifetime imprisonment, at 5k a day to keep him thats just crazy.

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#2550883 27-Aug-2020 18:59

If there is any way this could be possible, Australia should certainly pay for it.

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#2550917 27-Aug-2020 19:28

Rikkitic:

If there is any way this could be possible, Australia should certainly pay for it.

At some point each country will have their notorious criminal exports -- you go down this kind of track, other people will do it to you. NZ isn't some big player in the international scene. We go all nihilistic and against international norms, there's only going to be one winner: not us. It's simple enough to work out with some intellectual engagement.

And if some people want to talk about being victim-focused (I don't agree with this -- the justice system should be about doing justice), take your beliefs to their logical conclusion. I am sure at least some of the victims want to see ongoing justice being meted out here.

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#2550923 27-Aug-2020 19:41

dejadeadnz:

Rikkitic:

If there is any way this could be possible, Australia should certainly pay for it.

At some point each country will have their notorious criminal exports -- you go down this kind of track, other people will do it to you. NZ isn't some big player in the international scene. We go all nihilistic and against international norms, there's only going to be one winner: not us. It's simple enough to work out with some intellectual engagement.

And if some people want to talk about being victim-focused (I don't agree with this -- the justice system should be about doing justice), take your beliefs to their logical conclusion. I am sure at least some of the victims want to see ongoing justice being meted out here.

I'm sure you're right, and I freely admit I am totally biased against this monster and that is what drives my thought process, I'm not looking at it logically, but then I don't think Australia do either when they deport some of the people they have in the past back here

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#2550947 27-Aug-2020 20:16

snnet:

I'm sure you're right, and I freely admit I am totally biased against this monster and that is what drives my thought process, I'm not looking at it logically, but then I don't think Australia do either when they deport some of the people they have in the past back here

You're not wrong. All that I am calling out is try to rise above this guy. And this is where I think the life without parole sentence was a moral failure. The statement to him is transparently that he's no longer a person -- no matter what he does to redeem himself or not, the outcome is the same (I do suspect he is basically irredeemable) I also don't think we as a society should deliberately seek the rather morbid satisfaction of having him die behind bars. Release him when he's 90 and no longer a threat to anyone and he will still be a nobody to anyone sensible. Instead, this sentence has given him an elevated martyrdom as being the first to be sentenced for to serve the rest of his life.

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#2551212 28-Aug-2020 11:49

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12360308

If they are open to it, I 100% support sending him over there to serve his sentence in Australia. Morrison has said he is happy to consider a one-off special case which wouldn't impact current arrangements.

I am not sure how much say the families here have over that decision, but even if they wanted him here, the cost of incarcerating him shouldn't be worn by the NZ taxpayers.

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#2551215 28-Aug-2020 11:55

networkn:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12360308

If they are open to it, I 100% support sending him over there to serve his sentence in Australia. Morrison has said he is happy to consider a one-off special case which wouldn't impact current arrangements.

I am not sure how much say the families here have over that decision, but even if they wanted him here, the cost of incarcerating him shouldn't be worn by the NZ taxpayers.

What guarantees would we have that this piece of shit does not leave an Australian prison, ever?

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