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  #2503819 12-Jun-2020 18:28
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I think this is the most appropriate topic to post this: UK GDP down 20.4% in April 2020.





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  #2505773 16-Jun-2020 14:35
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freitasm:

 

I think this is the most appropriate topic to post this: UK GDP down 20.4% in April 2020.

 

 

How much did NZ fall comparatively?

 

 


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  #2505778 16-Jun-2020 14:57
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I don't know but that's not the topic.

 

The Parliament documents here says the next release (March 2020 quarter) is on 18 June.





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  #2505907 16-Jun-2020 16:03
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freitasm:

 

I think this is the most appropriate topic to post this: UK GDP down 20.4% in April 2020.

 

 

The first graph looks like the person drawing it fell off their chair! Also of note, despite falling off a cliff, GDP was still above 1997 levels.





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  #2535733 6-Aug-2020 12:30
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Breaking ...  🙃

 




 

BBC News - Boris Johnson: Spitting Image puppet unveiled ahead of relaunch

 

today

 


A puppet of Boris Johnson has been unveiled ahead of the return of satirical TV show Spitting Image this autumn after 24 years.

 

The programme, made famous in the mid-1980s, is due to be recreated by the BBC and ITV for their Britbox streaming service.

 

Puppets of the prime minister's senior adviser Dominic Cummings and Prince Andrew have also been revealed.

 

The show originally ran for 18 series from 1984 until it was axed in 1996.

 

The new series is also set to mock politicians around the world, including US President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin. ...

 

 

 

 

This new series will definitely raise the tone of the BBC & ITV - can't wait!  🙂





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  #2535768 6-Aug-2020 13:30
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My avatar is the Trump puppet.

 

 





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  #2537794 10-Aug-2020 11:51
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UK GDP drop for second quarter expected to be announced in a couple of days - by far the worst in the G7:

 

UK 21.0%
France 13.8%
Italy 12.4%
Canada 12%
Germany 10.1%
US 9.5%
Japan 7.6%

 

Note that headline figures for "annualised" GDP contraction have been published in the news media (IIRC ~35% for the US).
The annualised figure is misleading - it's pointless even reporting it when the 2nd quarter drop was so sharp.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/09/uk-to-fall-into-deepest-slump-on-record-with-worst-fall-in-gdp-among-g7

 

 

 

 




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  #2538319 10-Aug-2020 22:00
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It's just a blip. In 6 months Brexit kicks in and the UK is going to be absolutely rolling in money from new trade deals with New Zealand and Rwanda.





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  #2539146 12-Aug-2020 09:47
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Technofreak:

 

Looks like Boris can get some things right

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300058258/boris-johnson-has-done-more-for-the-climate-than-jacinda-ardern

 

 

NZ faces a different CO2 burden to the UK. With 50% generated by agriculture, NZ faces a large, entrenched and politically conservative bloc who resist changes or charges to agricultural CO2 management.

 

It's much easier, politically, to close a coal power station and subsidise a wind farm because coal power stations don't kick up a stink about how they and all their mates won't vote for you.

 

 





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  #2539241 12-Aug-2020 11:14
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elpenguino:

 

Technofreak:

 

Looks like Boris can get some things right

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300058258/boris-johnson-has-done-more-for-the-climate-than-jacinda-ardern

 

 

NZ faces a different CO2 burden to the UK. With 50% generated by agriculture, NZ faces a large, entrenched and politically conservative bloc who resist changes or charges to agricultural CO2 management.

 

It's much easier, politically, to close a coal power station and subsidise a wind farm because coal power stations don't kick up a stink about how they and all their mates won't vote for you.

 

 

Quite true and that article alludes to that. However it also outlines areas where nothing has been done and could have been done or in fact have gone rapidly backwards in New Zealand. The article also talks about the UK's investment to find was of reducing industrial and agricultural emissions. There was no mention of any equivalent investments by our government.

 

One point a lot of people conveniently forget is the standard of living New Zealanders as a whole enjoy as a result of agriculture. CO2 emissions from agriculture need to be addressed but there also needs to be recognition of the impact on New Zealanders. To point the finger at "a large, entrenched and politically conservative bloc" is far too simplistic. A much wider group of the community are also resistant to changes as it will affect them too negatively.

 

My take out from that article is as well as setting emission targets Boris has also invested money in research in an attempt to achieve those targets while our government has talked the talk but hasn't walked the walk. Despite all Boris's perceived buffoonery he has actually started the ball rolling on issues I suspect most wouldn't have expected him to do.





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  #2619021 9-Dec-2020 22:38
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Interesting commentary on Brexit from the Guardian:

 

 

There is one Brexit deal. There has only ever been one. It has been there from the start, although hard to see through the fog. Its outline has been discernible behind plumes of rhetoric and misinformation billowing out from the Westminster political machine. It was there on the horizon the morning after the referendum. It has not moved during the thousands of hours of debate that followed.

 

 

The deal was already contained in article 50. It was in every bill in every late-night Commons vote. It was in Theresa May’s backstop and Boris Johnson’s alternative. It is the hard kernel of a soft Brexit and the soft underbelly of a hard one. It is the capital of Norwegian, Canadian and Australian-style Brexits. It is this: the UK will give up wealth in exchange for sovereignty.

 

 

In what proportions and over what timescale is the only real subject of negotiation. Whether that exchange should be made at all is the essential difference between leavers and remainers. The scenario we now call “no deal” is a way of describing the highest price for the largest portion of sovereignty.

 

 

The remainder is a good read too.

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UK fishermen seems to be causing grief for Brexit.

It seems some people wistfully want to return to the days when the empire ruled the waves.



BBC: Fishing: Why is fishing important in Brexit trade talks?

...Fishing has always been an emotional issue in the UK's relationship with the European Union, and it's no surprise that it is one of the final outstanding issues in the post-Brexit trade talks.

Supporters of Brexit see it as a symbol of sovereignty that will now be regained. The UK says any new agreement on fisheries must be based on the understanding that "British fishing grounds are first and foremost for British boats"....

...fishing is only a tiny fraction of the overall economy both in the UK (less than 0.1%) and in the EU (some landlocked countries have no fishing fleets at all).

According to the Office for National Statistics, fishing was worth £784m to the UK economy in 2018. By comparison, the financial services industry was worth £132bn..

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  #2619058 10-Dec-2020 07:41
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It's one of the few issues where Britain has some leverage over the EU - the EU wants access to the UK EEZ. If they are independent of the EU it's entirely reasonable that they control their own fisheries unless they get something back.

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