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  # 2305126 24-Aug-2019 11:03
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Thing is, the cost of a cheap, barely running car (especially if you just don't get a warrant and rego) is a lot less than the cost of living somewhere you don't need a car. Until we can get a viable way for Solo Mum and her 2 kids to work and school respectively in rural towns, it's a non-starter.


It's not like there's a ton of NZ New cars trickling down into our vehicles, it's importers bringing in 10+ year old cars because those are the ones that sell on the lot, and give them a decent profit. Go to your guy in Japan, buy a car that's almost 20 years old and bring it here to sell for a decent profit, that's the business. I'm on a decent wage for where I live, and I'm driving a 2004 Nissan Bluebird Slyphy because I can't justify throwing down $15,000+ just to pick up something slightly more modern, so I can completely understand how people with families making less aren't doing the same.


We need to put significant tax cuts in for EVs and hybrids, and try and encourage the USED IMPORT market to bring in and sell THOSE for their profits, rather than trying to ditch the ICE, and we need to be careful how we do it, because our power grid is going to get wolloped if we aren't.


With that said, someone buy me a Tesla Model 3, so I can lead by example. And a garage to keep it in. Cheers.

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  # 2305219 24-Aug-2019 12:32
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...limit the age of vehicles on our roads.


You've piqued my interest with that one - what sort of age would you suggest the cutoff be at?


People should be encoruaged to replace their vehicle within ten years. Singapore does this, although I wouldn't recommend following thier model. They charge extensive fees on new vehicles (more than the value of the vehicle), but refund a significant chunk of it if the vehicle is sold/replaced early, thereby incentivising new purchases. They then sell their old crap to suckers in New Zealand.


Regarding classic cars. I don't think these should be banned outright, just their use restricted unless they can be brought up to current standards.


Supply and price. NZ is low priority because we don't buy many cars. Buy more, more choice will be offered. Incentives could also be offered for NZ assembly, giving us more choice of colours and features. I too am frustrated that NZ, with a small population, once had a car market where you could pick and choose features and colours. We now have a larger population and can't do anything for ourselves, and we're stuck with limited options. Price can be managed.


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  # 2307959 29-Aug-2019 17:39
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To meet climate change objectives? No.


To improve the age and condition of our vehicle fleet? Yes.


 Something wrong with older cars?
I have always owned older cars, my newest is tthe current 2006 car, most were 20 yrs old.


But I knew how to pre-check them and we did maintenance and a lot of work ourselves on them.


Not drove around with them falling apart.


You think everyone can afford new cars? No.


I paid at most $3000 for the cars I bought.




Second hand electric, meh, the batteries are the biggest issue, they cost more than I've paid for entire cars.


Pay it off? hell no, never paid a car off, ever. It's a crazy thing to do, they depreciate so fast.

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