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  #2877881 2-Mar-2022 19:50
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Gurezaemon:

 

I think one of the more worrying possibilities for a Russian military that is not doing as well as it hoped is the escalation into explicit disregard for civilians, similar to how they conducted attacks in Syria, as a way of speeding up a conclusive result.

 

The idea of a fast, brutal war being less painful for everyone in the long term (contrasted with sometimes paralysing US reluctance to accept any collateral damage) is familiar to Russian military planners. Levelling city blocks with thermobaric or other weapons would undoubtedly be horrific, but they may be prepared to take the international outrage on the chin if such action broke Ukrainian resistance and will to fight.

 

 

Thats the Russian way.

 

A piece on CNN tonight had two experts giving Kiev a show. One is an urban war expert. They will need 5 x the UKR forces at least. Guerrilla warfare in an urban setting is tough. Buildings are empty, yet they are full of UKR army and reservists. Tanks might roll in and control everything yet they get picked off by invisible people. Govt buildings get taken over but they are empty, papers gone, something innocuous as removing all the power fuses. So they occupy Kiev yet they dont really have any control.  


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  #2877904 2-Mar-2022 21:05
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Putin did cut his teeth on Grozny in 2003.  At that time it became the worlds most devastated city.
If people high enough up in Military really believe Ukrainians are fellow Russians maybe they take the leadership decapitation plan in another direction.

 


Another note on Grozny Chechnya, there are Chechen units in the Russian assault, and apparently the special ops assassination team.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10565833/Ukraine-says-killed-team-Chechen-assassins.html

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Ukraine ‘says it has killed a team of Chechen assassins who were plotting to MURDER President Zelensky’
Oleksiy Danilov, Ukraine's Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council said during a televised address today that the unit was 'eliminated'
Earlier, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov said some of his forces had been killed
Last week it was reported a group of Chechen 'hunters' had been unleashed
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  #2877914 2-Mar-2022 21:56
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tdgeek:

Currently, there is a war between Russia and Ukraine. There is also an economic war, world vs Russia. Assuming Russia wins the war in Ukraine the economic war will continue, and that may or should bring down Putin. Russians and the Russian government members at some point will need to decide when enough is enough

 

 

Many Russians knew this from day one, but they don't dare say it. In talking to Russian friends they all believed he'd never start a war because there's no way out of this, it's suicidal for Russia. However no-one there can say this in public because of the extremely effective Russian state security forces, anyone who speaks out against it publicly gets arrested, beaten up, and then disappears.

 

 

As others have pointed out, either Putin goes or Russia goes. Let's hope he gets Beria'd sooner rather than later.



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  #2877998 3-Mar-2022 03:02
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rugrat:

 

Text messages from a Russian soldiers phone, after he died.

 

“Mama, I am in Ukraine. There is a real war raging here,” the solider wrote, according to the text messages read by Mr Kyslytsya.

 

“I’m afraid. We are bombing all of the cities together, even targeting civilians.

 

“We were told that they would welcome us and they are falling under our armoured vehicles, throwing themselves under the wheels and not allowing us to pass.

 

“They call us fascists. Mama this is so hard.”

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.skynews.com.au/world-news/russian-soldier-reveals-he-is-afraid-in-final-text-messages-sent-to-his-mother-before-death-in-ukraine/news-story/893a044592d976a5fb6783dadb068d8b%3famp

 

Also watching news 70 Ukrainian pilots in Poland to pick up fighter planes. 

 

Edit: looks like no planes being provided :(

 

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/eu-promise-to-supply-fighter-jets-to-ukraine-gets-grounded/amp/

 

 

Ukraine needs airpower to keep western supply lines open. As yet the Russian air force doesn't hold air superiority.

 

I hope another country will have the heart to supply fighters. 






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  #2878008 3-Mar-2022 07:07
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Boeing, the American aerospace company, has announced it is suspending “major operations” in Moscow, as well as “parts, maintenance, and technical support services for Russian airlines,” Politico’s Lee Hudson reports.

 

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60582367

 

airbus also stops services and parts to Russia





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  #2878105 3-Mar-2022 09:35
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Putin's friend (about to be investigated by UK anti corruption agencies)

 

forgives 1.5 billion pound loans

 

sets up entity to sell Chelsea FC

 

will donate all net profits to Ukraine war victims

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/02/chelsea-swiss-billionaire-hansjorg-wyss-says-offered-chance-buy-club-roman-abramovich

 

 





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  #2878111 3-Mar-2022 09:56
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K8Toledo:

 

I hope another country will have the heart to supply fighters. 

 

 

There was an unsubstantiated report that Poland, Slovakia and maybe Bulgaria would supply Ukraine’s air force with MiG-29s, (which Ukrainian pilots are already trained to fly)
That wasn't going to happen.

 

Bulgaria immediately said Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? No one's asked us... Slovakia just made confused comments..

 

Poland has 28 MiG-29s it could potentially deliver to Ukraine, about 25 of which are fully operational.
The problem is Poland needs them too, because they fly them in pairs to intercept Russian aircraft approaching Polish airspace.

 

The MiG-29s Poland flies have been modernized, and equipped with NATO communications, weapons and reconnaissance systems.
They'd have to be stripped of this equipment and reflagged before they could be transferred to the Ukrainian air force.

 

The U.S. supposedly offered to replace Poland’s MiG-29s with F-16s (which Poland currently has 48 of) but Polish pilots are just getting up to speed on them and still prefer the familiar Soviet-era MiG.

 

And then there's the issue of getting the planes to Ukraine.
As a NATO member, Poland couldn't allow Ukrainian pilots to simply fly them into Ukrainian airspace because doing so would make Poland (and NATO) direct parties to the conflict.

 

I'm sure - given time - they'd find a way to supply fighters - the problem is, given time, Russia will have overwhelmed Ukraine and it'll be too late.




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  #2878130 3-Mar-2022 10:11
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Batman:

Putin's friend (about to be investigated by UK anti corruption agencies)


forgives 1.5 billion pound loans


sets up entity to sell Chelsea FC


will donate all net profits to Ukraine war victims



Good to see that his henchmen are starting to get hit, since that's the way to get to him....

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  #2878137 3-Mar-2022 10:23
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Yeah, fighter jets aren't just off the rack at the local Lockheed dealership. Poland and/or other ex-Warsaw Pact operators might be buying F-16s or F-35s but it will be a couple of years before their first ones roll off the production line, and longer still before enough aircraft are produced and pilots trained for them to be put into service. So in the meantime, they won't want to just give away any remaining Mig-29s or SU-25s they might have, especially not while Russia is already on a rampage.

 

The ones in immediate combat condition would need some gear stripped, and the older ones might take weeks or months to bring up to combat condition (and will also mean a source of spare parts for the modernised ones has gone).

 

Personally, I think this whole "Europe will give fighter jets to Ukraine" was simply wishful thinking. There was never any realistic chance it was going to happen.





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  #2878143 3-Mar-2022 10:38
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According to Forbes the Germans have seized Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov’s big (512 foot!) boat.


  #2878285 3-Mar-2022 12:27
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cruxis:

 

I do belive the russians have shown alot of restraint, for what that they could have done, and Ukraines stuborn resistance. How long will the restraint last before, before putin says "stuff it"  and just levels the place and will the soilders do it.

 

“There are two basic ways you can describe the slowness of the Russian advance in Ukraine,” said Loren Thompson, a defense analyst at the Lexington Institute, a Washington think tank. “One explanation is deliberate restraint. The other explanation is poor execution. We don’t know enough to identify which is the more plausible explanation, but it’s important to recognize the Russians have all sorts of options they have not yet brought to bear,” including heavier use of cyberattacks against the Ukrainian command and control system and air defenses.

 

Source https://businessmirror.com.ph/2022/03/01/russia-slow-to-win-ukraines-airspace-limiting-war-gains/

 

 

I would not take anything with that byline too seriously

 

Loren Thompson has an IMO well-earned reputation as a paid shrill for certain US aerospace interests


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  #2878291 3-Mar-2022 12:36
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  #2878321 3-Mar-2022 14:00
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Seizing the odd gin palace. 
Its good for morale, and sure take the easy targets.
Meagre pin pricks though considering scale of wealth involved.

 

Needs...
Opening the rotten structure of the trusts and front companies, the network of money moving around.

 

Its the assets we don't know they have that are not at risk of seizure that need fishing out.
Many in safe countries, as those investments are backed by a regulatory environment not available at home.

 

Just one example of Cypress, “Moscow-on-the-Med”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/03/02/cyprus-russian-bank-dirty-money-posing-eu-state/

 

In UK they are still looking at the superficial surface assets though, others will not be signposted.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/23/curtain-coming-londongrad/
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Small wonder then, that Londongrad – also known as Moscow-on-Thames – has become a tourist attraction in its own right. Kleptocracy Tours, run by anti-corruption campaigners, takes passengers on a bus trip from Highgate via St John’s Wood to Belgravia, 
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  #2878353 3-Mar-2022 15:14
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ICC investigates Russia for war crimes




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  #2878362 3-Mar-2022 15:22
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Batman: ICC investigates Russia for war crimes

 

UN voted almost unanimously for Russia to leave Ukraine, probably a similar result


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