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floydbloke

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#2914617 16-May-2022 15:12

quickymart (from the Trump thread):

Oh good, finally the cowards are getting to pay their dues (hopefully).

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Speaking of cowards:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128654072/couple-on-charges-relating-to-occupation-of-parliament-fight-to-keep-names-secret

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The couple’s duty lawyer Ian Miller requested interim name suppression while the couple’s lawyer examined the evidence for the case.

“The public exposure they face in the interim will constitute some fairly significant hardship,” Miller said.

Should've thought of that when you were busy being an idiot, shouldn't you. (Yes, I know they're entitled to a fair trail, innocent until proven guilty and all that but I haven't forgotten the grief, frustration and hardship these protesters caused.)

Roses are red, that much is true, but violets are purple, not ****ing blue!

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#2914624 16-May-2022 15:24

Interesting how they were protesting and fighting for something they so strongly believed in and cared about but they don't want to put their names to it.

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#2914655 16-May-2022 15:45

Must also be one of their "freedoms" to choose not have their name out there too, I guess 🙄

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#2914657 16-May-2022 15:50

I am of the opinion that name suppression should be the default until after a conviction and then it should be determined based on the impact to the *victim*.

However, there are so many complexities to consider like the impact to the friends and family of a convicted felon, that it's pretty hard to set a hard and fast rule. The impact to the convicted party should be the last consideration if it's considered at all.

Any law needs to be applicable to all situations.

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#2914667 16-May-2022 16:05

The issue is consistency. There should be name suppression for everyone all the time, as per the European model. This isn't perfect but it is the least imperfect. Victims are always covered and it isn't really the business of the law to name and shame. Punishment belongs in the court, not the newspapers. In really notorious cases, everyone will know the names anyway, in other cases they don't need to.

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#2914669 16-May-2022 16:07

Rikkitic:

The issue is consistency. There should be name suppression for everyone all the time, as per the European model. This isn't perfect but it is the least imperfect. Victims are always covered and it isn't really the business of the law to name and shame. Punishment belongs in the court, not the newspapers. In really notorious cases, everyone will know the names anyway, in other cases they don't need to.

This.

I'd go so far as to ask why it's even necessary to name the felon anyway? What purpose does it serve the public interest other than a bit of lavacious excitement? The courts are responsible for determining punishment.

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#2915802 18-May-2022 22:32

I was somewhat unsurprised to see an article in The Australian saying that the Ardern government was “Dangerous” and misportraying the protests as follows (unfortunately the article is paywalled but those with Apple News or a Fairfax subscription can read them: https://apple.news/AuhtK0l_pQ2K9M13TAdktoQ)

“Chaotic scenes erupted as hundreds of police descended, armed with riot shields, and shoving protesters out of the way. Protesters could be heard crying in pain after being pepper sprayed and police were lined several people deep to move them on … a police helicopter circled above …”
This was not reporting Russian authorities clearing demonstrators against Vladimir Putin’s attack on the Ukraine, nor French police breaking up a violent protest after Emmanuel Macron won re-election. It was New Zealand’s police moving in on the men, women, and children peacefully camped on parliament grounds to protest vaccine mandates on March 2.

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#2943748 19-Jul-2022 11:01

Light on detail, sorry, but I heard from someone with inside knowledge that police have now charged more than a hundred people in relation to the events of 2 March 2022. This pleases me.

Roses are red, that much is true, but violets are purple, not ****ing blue!

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#2943940 19-Jul-2022 20:37

Sensational.

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#2960444 28-Aug-2022 12:28

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/08/six-months-on-from-fiery-parliament-occupation-a-look-at-the-human-costs-that-followed.html

A look at the costs (financial and human) of the protest six months later.

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#2961047 30-Aug-2022 08:40

I guess people dig their own holes. Parliament protest 'judge' under review by health provider employer - NZ Herald

The real problem here is this lunatic is someone who worked on a medical provider that worked on covid testing and vaccination services.

The fake judge who convicted the Government of crimes against humanity in a mock trial during a Brian Tamaki-led protest at Parliament last week is under review by the prominent health provider that employs him.

Rick Southey, the non-clinical national manager of Whānau Ora Community Clinic, was dressed in judicial robes with gavel in hand on Tuesday as he oversaw the mock trial, organised by Tamaki's Freedom and Rights Coalition and watched by roughly 1500 protesters.

George Ngatai, director of Whānau Ora Community Clinic which added vital Covid-19 testing and vaccination services particularly in Auckland, says Southey has been stood down pending a review of his actions.

"I think that it may not have been a wise thing to do," Ngatai said of Southey's participation in the protest.

"Everybody has to be responsible for their actions and whatever the outcomes are from those actions then they've got to deal with those consequences as well."

According to a document released in November last year under the Official Information Act, WOCC received almost $8 million of funding from the now-disestablished Counties Manukau DHB since July, 2018 - largely for the Covid testing and vaccination services it provided.

Ngatai hoped Southey's actions hadn't jeopardised future funding or negatively impacted how people viewed his staff.

"We work really hard to deliver a good service and I think that this would hopefully not be seen as this is what our whole organisation does.

"One person's actions have actually created some challenges for us and we just have to work through that."

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#2963871 6-Sep-2022 14:04

Another court case report:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/474222/palmerston-north-man-pleads-guilty-to-charges-brought-in-wake-of-protest-at-parliament

Roses are red, that much is true, but violets are purple, not ****ing blue!

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#2963897 6-Sep-2022 15:36

Just the type of person who shouldn't be free to roam the streets, ever.

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#2963898 6-Sep-2022 15:39

floydbloke:

Another court case report:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/474222/palmerston-north-man-pleads-guilty-to-charges-brought-in-wake-of-protest-at-parliament

From that article:

Carlin also admitted six charges arising from a search of a Palmerston North property in June, including possessing prohibited firearms and explosives for an unlawful purpose.

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Two guns, including a semi-automatic rifle that was loaded, were in a bag near his bed.

Officers also found a prohibited semi-automatic firearm, a taser and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a P pipe and cannabis utensils.

What a nutcase! I know it's easy to laugh at characters like this because they're usually incompetent cretins who couldn't carry out the plots they dream of, but recent times have shown that they can't be underestimated. I hope he's on some kind of watch list.

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