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  #2984246 18-Oct-2022 12:47
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Kyanar:

 

David321:

 

I guess personally (and I think many would agree), I would like to see some safeguards of somesort, for example id never like to be trapped overseas or not be able to travel internationally for a family emergency because the PM slammed the border shut. Or face loosing my basic rights for refusing a vaccine. Anyway that's a whole new convo that I am not getting into lol (check above replies).

 

 

Those safeguards exist. The power to implement restrictions comes with the caveat that restrictions must be justifiable and proportionate - the government was given that message in no uncertain terms when courts found that the way MIQ was implemented was not lawful, as it prevented New Zealanders from travelling to their own country and failed to balance the need against individual circumstances.

 

 

 

 

I personally think many of the restrictions put in place were not proportionate but never got challenged on a big enough scale to hold the govt to account. Plus the social condition of the general public though the govt and media made anyone who questioned the restrictions a "covid denier". Look at MIQ, it was ruled unlawful in the court case launched by grounded kiwis, but it still happened for years prior, and when the court ruled against the govt there was no apology or hardly any mention of it in the media at all. 





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  #2984248 18-Oct-2022 12:49
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This is the official release:

 

 

Extraordinary COVID-19 powers to be wound down

 

  • COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020 being significantly narrowed to allow for a limited set of public health measures, as a guard against new COVID-19 waves or variants
  • This provides time to design future emergency epidemic response legislation
  • New Zealand Traveller Declaration will no longer be required from Thursday
  • The 7-day case isolation period and mask-wearing requirements for visitors in certain healthcare settings to remain for the time being as cases and hospitalisations tick up

The Government is winding down the extraordinary powers used to fight COVID-19 through the emergency phase of the response while retaining a small number of baseline measures to contain the spread of the virus, Acting Minister for COVID-19 Response Chris Hipkins announced today.

 

“Today is a significant milestone. The Government has been clear that the measures used to contain the spread of COVID-19 need to be proportionate to the risk of the virus, so it’s appropriate to wind down many of the extraordinary powers that are no longer needed,” Chris Hipkins said.

 

“What were once justified and served our country well should now be removed. With these changes, the legal framework matches the risk.

 

“The Government is also revoking the Epidemic Notice, which represents a move away from emergency arrangements to long-term management of the virus. Now, we can manage the virus with tools such as widened availability of anti-virals, without having to resort to the most restrictive measures.

 

“Ministers have been reviewing the COVD-19 Public Health Response Act 2020 to ensure it is fit for purpose now that we’re through the emergency response.

 

“The Government’s plan before the end of the year is to remove the most restrictive powers from the Act that are no longer required for the response, while still ensuring we can practically manage the ongoing impact of COVID-19.

 

“It will retain an ability to put in place case isolation periods and mask-wearing requirements and if necessary, requirements on travellers that can be called on if things change and we need to step up our response, but most other measures, including lockdowns, will be removed.  

 

“Under the new plan, if other measures - beyond isolation periods, mask-wearing and traveller requirements - were needed we would need to pass new legislation to enable these. 

 

“Keeping a basic legal framework in place provides sufficient time to consult on and design a replacement general pandemic piece of legislation that would set New Zealand in good stead for any future events, rather than having to start from scratch as we had to in 2020. 

 

“When COVID arrived we had limited legislative tools to respond and new ones had to be created. It is critical that a legacy of this pandemic is a fit for purpose piece of pandemic legislation like we have for civil defence and natural disasters,” Chris Hipkins said.         

 

Also ending on Thursday is the current requirement for travellers flying to New Zealand by air having to complete the online New Zealand Traveller Declaration.

 

Customs Minister Meka Whaitiri said the New Zealand Traveller Declaration (NZTD) has been a vital tool in supporting the safe re-opening of our borders.

 

“The NZTD is an integral part of modernising Aotearoa’s border experience and the New Zealand Customs Service is working with border agencies to replace the paper arrival card with the online NZTD system by June 2023,” Meka Whaitiri said.

 

Current COVID-19 measures

 

“Cabinet agreed yesterday to follow health advice and retain the 7-day isolation period for cases and mask-wearing requirements for visitors in certain healthcare settings for the time being,” Chris Hipkins said.

 

“These core measures remain important, with indications of an upward trend in cases and growing concern about new Omicron subvariants that are driving waves of infection overseas.

 

“We have seen a slight uptick in cases and hospitalisations in the last couple of weeks. This was to be expected, and for now, these tools continue to prove effective in dampening the impact of the virus on the health system and in protecting the most vulnerable.

 

“The next review of these measures will be by the end of November 2022.”

 

 

Again, nothing like the OP wrote in first place.





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  #2984265 18-Oct-2022 14:00
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freitasm:

 

Again, nothing like the OP wrote in first place.

 

 

 

 

The first sentence of my post - 

 

"What does everybody here make of the news that *The right honourable Jacinda Ardern*  is looking to hold on to her COVID powers by extending them another two years from their current expiry half way through next year"

 

This is still happening, so not sure what you meant about "nothing like the OP wrote in first place".

 

Dude, I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Im above petty online arguments and childish passive aggressive jabs at randoms online and I would assume you are to, lets leave it at that.  

 

 

 

 





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  #2984266 18-Oct-2022 14:07
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Your post was an attempt at creating rage even before the official announcement and what you predict did not come to pass.

This is not the first time you act like that around here.

Yes, I am a rando, and you are one too. But this is my playground and I do not like people who have this kind of attitude, trying to enrage people, spread FUD and find a conspiracy where there is none.




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