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quickymart

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  #3309066 14-Nov-2024 18:54
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Only for 2 years though. I'm looking forward to the midterms in 2026.




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  #3309136 14-Nov-2024 20:26
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Sideface:

 

The NY TimesRepublicans win House control, cementing a G.O.P. trifecta

 

breaking

 

 

Republicans cemented their control of the House on Wednesday after holding onto a handful of critical seats in Arizona and California and defeating incumbent Democrats in key battleground districts, handing the G.O.P. a governing trifecta in Washington to enact President-elect Donald J. Trump’s agenda.

 

 

RIP democracy in the USA.  ๐Ÿ˜•

 

 

I supported your post, but the election was democracy. The people voted. Many voted against what they believe in. The key was the economy, so Trump gives tax cuts. The masses need that so they voted accordingly. Not sure how that will work out as tax cuts are for the masses and businesses. Elon will cut 2 trillion off spending. An ex Republican House member said that cannot happen. 4 Trillion is non discretionary spending, so all discretionary spending will be cut? Defence spending will grow due to the defence by peace promise. Funds will be raised by tariffs on all or ,any imports, so the US coffers will gain. But the exporters to the US wont pay, the US consumers will. Ukraine support will stop, a good saving. Gives Putun what he wants, not a great precedent. Trump will build a wall. Not sure how as that was last times promise. 

 

If you had a great leader who was right, or left, thats all you want. Some will benefit more than others but overall, thats all you want, a great leader. Trump is an idiot, I hope he tries to fulfill all his promises, the math doesn't work. 


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  #3309197 14-Nov-2024 21:04
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tdgeek:

 

Ukraine support will stop, a good saving. Gives Putun what he wants, not a great precedent. Trump will build a wall. Not sure how as that was last times promise. 

 

If you had a great leader who was right, or left, thats all you want. Some will benefit more than others but overall, thats all you want, a great leader. Trump is an idiot, I hope he tries to fulfill all his promises, the math doesn't work. 

 

 

Europe will need to step in and step up.

 

Appeasement did not work for Chamberlin , and it will not work now.

 

Throw the US military out of Europe, no country should host an unreliable ally's army within their boarders.

 

 




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  #3309219 15-Nov-2024 07:02
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quickymart:

 

Only for 2 years though. I'm looking forward to the midterms in 2026.

 

 

 

 

You are incorrectly assuming that political normality will continue....


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  #3309228 15-Nov-2024 08:02
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sir1963:

 

quickymart:

 

Only for 2 years though. I'm looking forward to the midterms in 2026.

 

 

 

 

You are incorrectly assuming that political normality will continue....

 

 

 

 

Or even that people won't legitimately vote for it again. He won the popular vote now even with the public knowing he was a convicted criminal & adjudicated rapist.





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  #3309244 15-Nov-2024 09:03
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sir1963:

 

You are incorrectly assuming that political normality will continue....

 

 

Maybe I'm an optimist. But I think there would be an enormous uproar if elections were just "cancelled" or something. I think a lot of people would not take that one lying down.


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Though with the kind of turnouts for voting in USA.
Maybe depoliticization is the real problem.

 

Oklahoma voter turnout lowest in US, decreases from past presidential elections
https://www.oudaily.com/news/oklahoma-voter-lowest-turnout-nation-presidential-election/article_978e9b4c-9d18-11ef-afdd-3fbfffe26497.html

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Oklahoma’s turnout rate for the Nov. 5 election was 53%, the lowest in the nation, according to a report from the University of Florida.
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Of Oklahoma’s registered voters, about 1.56 million — or 64% — voted in the 2024 presidential election. 
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When you combine this with a level of incidental or perhaps willful ignorance.

 

The compromise necessary to weigh what choice causes the least harm, or most good, if not ideal.
Maybe the path has to be traveled one step at a time.
Just too hard.

 

You love animals, and you have been told that migrants eating 'all the pets' is Kamala's fault, and authorities killing that lovely squirrel was at Kamala's woke orders. 

 

The tidal wave of advertising and disinformation, fakes and deeper fakes from leading social media platforms.
Musks, twitter, not just for its own massive audience, the message get repeated on other platforms as well.
His team of social engineers may also know from the inside how to make Facebook, Google/Youtube etc spend sing too.

 

Most of this deliberate fake and malicious material would be illegal in an election campaign here.
Billionaires are not tossing their money at this for nothing, it works.


 
 
 

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  #3309260 15-Nov-2024 09:45
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quickymart:

 

Maybe I'm an optimist. But I think there would be an enormous uproar if elections were just "cancelled" or something. I think a lot of people would not take that one lying down.

 

 

 

 

But he said he was going to do that 'last election you'll ever need to vote in' etc. And they voted for him. So ... I guess arguably he already has the mandate he needs.





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In the final throes of the election, here's some political cartoons for your Saturday morning:

 

 

^ I hope so too!!

 

 

 

^ (the irony of MAGA thinking that any of the crowd behind the fence give a flying-f about them)

 

 

 

^ (this last one reminds me of somewhere but I can't quite put my finger on it...)


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  #3309967 17-Nov-2024 21:32
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A quick review of the many 'landslide' claims and the reality of a close election

 


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  #3309988 18-Nov-2024 07:41
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RIP democracy in the USA.  ๐Ÿ˜•

 

 

maybe Americans are just tired of the Democrat agenda and just want nothing more to do with them, but at a cost to the rest of us

 

i still blame the Harris/Democrats disaster for this


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  #3310007 18-Nov-2024 08:34
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Batman:

 

maybe Americans are just tired of the Democrat agenda and just want nothing more to do with them, but at a cost to the rest of us

 

i still blame the Harris/Democrats disaster for this

 

 

 

 

The "Democrat Agenda" is the same as the "(sane) Republican Agenda". They're both right-wing parties compared to the rest of the world.





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SaltyNZ:

 

Batman:

 

maybe Americans are just tired of the Democrat agenda and just want nothing more to do with them, but at a cost to the rest of us

 

i still blame the Harris/Democrats disaster for this

 

 

 

 

The "Democrat Agenda" is the same as the "(sane) Republican Agenda". They're both right-wing parties compared to the rest of the world.

 

 

This isn't so different from NZ politics.

 

Both Labour and National have both governed in a centrist way the last couple decades (with their own underlying twist)

 

 

 

In the U.S., the Dems are more progressive, where the Republicans are more conservative.

 

There has been only small differences when they are in power (pet projects/campaign promises etc)

 

It's only outspoken individual representatives, that make it seem to be different.

 

 

 

In both cases,  think the term "Uniparty" is appropriate.


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  #3310095 18-Nov-2024 12:38
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Batman: maybe Americans are just tired of the Democrat agenda

 

The Democrats have an agenda?  Other than "sort of muddle through" I mean.


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  #3310291 18-Nov-2024 16:58
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neb:

 

Batman: maybe Americans are just tired of the Democrat agenda

 

The Democrats have an agenda?  Other than "sort of muddle through" I mean.

 

 

here's everything that Bill Maher has said about it (he's anti republican, 100% democrat supporter)

 

too many to write

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-stupid-dems-ditch-143250254.html

 

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-maher-mocks-liberals-losing-crazy-contest-actual-crazy-person-1986835

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/maher-democrats-lost-due-anti-154905004.html

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-privileged-and-stupid-democrats-need-to-stop-digging-hole-over-identity-politics/

 

 


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