Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
To post in this sub-forum you must have made 100 posts or have Trust status or have completed our ID Verification



Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ... | 102
quickymart
13766 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #3115420 13-Aug-2023 22:41
Send private message

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/heather-du-plessis-allan-election-2023-act-nz-first-coupling-a-headache-for-national/SUF7BHQBDBBUVCL2PPNTTNR5JI/ >> a paywalled opinion piece from Heather Du Plessis Allan, who really, really doesn't like Winston, and thinks any government that has anything to do with him is 100% a bad idea.


 
 
 

Shop now on AliExpress (affiliate link).
Technofreak
6527 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #3115430 14-Aug-2023 05:55
Send private message

quickymart:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/heather-du-plessis-allan-election-2023-act-nz-first-coupling-a-headache-for-national/SUF7BHQBDBBUVCL2PPNTTNR5JI/ >> a paywalled opinion piece from Heather Du Plessis Allan, who really, really doesn't like Winston, and thinks any government that has anything to do with him is 100% a bad idea.

 

 

100% agree with her. Winston is worse than bad news. There needs to be more billboards, but better targeted against Winston. The public need to be reminded how bad he has been.

 

He was a disaster for this country in 2017 and will be again if he ever gets to sit on the government benches.





Sony Xperia XA2 running Sailfish OS. https://sailfishos.org The true independent open source mobile OS 
Samsung Galaxy Tab S6
Dell Inspiron 14z i5


GV27
5882 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115431 14-Aug-2023 06:13
Send private message

The number of people who think removing GST will give them a 15% saving is reason enough to doubt anyone who suggests this as a serious policy. 




sen8or
1777 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115451 14-Aug-2023 07:56
Send private message

The GST on food thing is an easy sell, who's going to say its a bad idea potentially saving money at the grocery store? The average Joe Public is too naïve, gullible and/or plain stupid to actually think much of the savings will be passed on. Three groups and three groups only will benefit from this

 

  • The Supermarkets (who will raise prices after 1-2 news cycles, pinning the increase on supplier price rises, inflation or any other excuse they care to muster up
  • Accountants - the extra charges managing GST returns and end of year accounts to reconcile things properly
  • IT companies - the changes to IT systems will be vast and expensive

I hadn't read the bit about non indexing of tax rates, so I guess normal inflation will take care of any minute savings on fruit and veges that haven't already been absorbed by the above.

 

Stupid is as stupid does


GV27
5882 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115454 14-Aug-2023 08:07
Send private message

I'm genuinely confused how the government can consider things like drastically increasing access to dental care and then decide to instead campaign on yanking the GST off fruit and vegetables for no actual benefit and against the advice of almost literally every tax professional for almost the same amount of money.


sir1963
3234 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #3115456 14-Aug-2023 08:17
Send private message

GV27:

 

The number of people who think removing GST will give them a 15% saving is reason enough to doubt anyone who suggests this as a serious policy. 

 

 

 

 

Cheaper and easier to administer would be to give everyone on a below average wage/benefit a $10 a week top up, ie much like the winter energy payment.


Technofreak
6527 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #3115538 14-Aug-2023 10:10
Send private message


sen8or
1777 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115652 14-Aug-2023 12:22
Send private message

Oops, 

 

Labours calculator was broken

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labour-forced-to-fix-gst-policy-after-240m-hole-found/3SGFFXMX4ZD4LFDZX2RSF47JX4/

 

I get that these things happen (and National had better be damned sure of their numbers before throwing around costings), but this close to the election campaign, its a distraction which they really don't want.


gzt

gzt
16984 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #3115656 14-Aug-2023 12:25
Send private message

GV27: I'm genuinely confused how the government can consider things like drastically increasing access to dental care [snip]

Labour? I thought that was just a Green Party policy?

gzt

gzt
16984 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #3115672 14-Aug-2023 12:51
Send private message

Technofreak: Winston is worse than bad news. There needs to be more billboards, but better targeted against Winston. The public need to be reminded how bad he has been.

The Streisand effect is only going to help NZ First.

GV27
5882 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115691 14-Aug-2023 13:29
Send private message

gzt:
GV27: I'm genuinely confused how the government can consider things like drastically increasing access to dental care [snip]

Labour? I thought that was just a Green Party policy?

 

I believe it was investigated as part of a costing exercise.


sen8or
1777 posts

Uber Geek


  #3115942 15-Aug-2023 08:20
Send private message

And the experts agree, GST free fruit and veges is a dog of an idea

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-tax-experts-respond-to-gst-free-fruit-and-vegetables/EVZXXQYZSJH35BQCZZW2ADSSZE/

 

Even the economist for the council of trade unions and former advisor to Grant Robertson struggled to not absolutely lambast it and another said any economist who supports the idea doesn't deserve the title of economist (I had to laugh at that).

 

I also see more election lollies have been dished out with 4 weeks more paid parental leave for partners, to be run in conjunction with the main carer and an extra $51 per week and kiwisaver contributions too. Thats a policy right out of labours handbook and will have broad appeal

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2023-labours-offer-for-new-parents-is-four-weeks-paid-leave-for-partners-on-top-of-paid-parental-leave/UKFJMWGLONDBBFQAWMWX6JB4EA/

 

 

 

Please, National or Act, come out with some decent broad based policies too


tdgeek

29631 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #3115963 15-Aug-2023 08:55
Send private message

Chris Luxon stated not long back that National is open to GST off veges and fruit. But the real story is despite all our woes, the election is about buying votes. Labour offers a silly offer, which on  paper sounds good. National then become open to it. They are both silly. I thought NZ had housing, inflation, health, education, infrastructure issues? Maybe not. They are both spending up on lollies. 


sen8or
1777 posts

Uber Geek


  #3116021 15-Aug-2023 09:32
Send private message

Unfortunately, lollies wins votes, fixing issues doesn't (and perhaps because the issues have been around so long, that even the average person knows its not an easy fix).


tdgeek

29631 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #3116028 15-Aug-2023 09:43
Send private message

sen8or:

 

Unfortunately, lollies wins votes, fixing issues doesn't (and perhaps because the issues have been around so long, that even the average person knows its not an easy fix).

 

 

Exactly. But its quite stark given that those sectors have been in the news steadily for a good period of time, yet now at the time when people can vote, they aren't.  


1 | ... | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ... | 102
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Bolt Launches in New Zealand
Posted 11-Jun-2025 00:00


Suunto Run Review
Posted 10-Jun-2025 10:44


Freeview Satellite TV Brings HD Viewing to More New Zealanders
Posted 5-Jun-2025 11:50


HP OmniBook Ultra Flip 14-inch Review
Posted 3-Jun-2025 14:40


Flip Phones Are Back as HMD Reimagines an Iconic Style
Posted 30-May-2025 17:06


Hundreds of School Students Receive Laptops Through Spark Partnership With Quadrent's Green Lease
Posted 30-May-2025 16:57


AI Report Reveals Trust Is Key to Unlocking Its Potential in Aotearoa
Posted 30-May-2025 16:55


Galaxy Tab S10 FE Series Brings Intelligent Experiences to the Forefront with Premium, Versatile Design
Posted 30-May-2025 16:14


New OPPO Watch X2 Launches in New Zealand
Posted 29-May-2025 16:08


Synology Premiers a New Lineup of Advanced Data Management Solutions
Posted 29-May-2025 16:04


Dyson Launches Its Slimmest Vaccum Cleaner PencilVac
Posted 29-May-2025 15:50


OPPO Reno13 Pro 5G Review 
Posted 29-May-2025 15:33


Logitech Introduces New G522 Gaming Headset
Posted 21-May-2025 19:01


LG Announces New Ultragear OLED Range for 2025
Posted 20-May-2025 16:35


Sandisk Raises the Bar With WD_BLACK SN8100 NVME SSD
Posted 20-May-2025 16:29









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.







GoodSync is the easiest file sync and backup for Windows and Mac