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#3163348 24-Nov-2023 19:26

It was revealed on Friday that as part of the coalition agreement, the new Government had agreed to focus the Reserve Bank’s remit solely on price stability.

It will drop its requirement to support maximum sustainable employment.

I thought National had a policy to fix inflation thats caused by "the other lot" Now they seem to be offloading that to the RBNZ, so when it fails they offload the blame?] to Orr and RBNZ?

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#3163350 24-Nov-2023 19:29

tdgeek:

It was revealed on Friday that as part of the coalition agreement, the new Government had agreed to focus the Reserve Bank’s remit solely on price stability.

It will drop its requirement to support maximum sustainable employment.

I thought National had a policy to fix inflation thats caused by "the other lot" Now they seem to be offloading that to the RBNZ, so when it fails they offload the blame?] to Orr and RBNZ?

Ummm what?

Controlling inflation has been in the Reserve Banks remit for the last 30 years.

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#3163353 24-Nov-2023 19:40

Handle9:

Ummm what?

Controlling inflation has been in the Reserve Banks remit for the last 30 years.

Here we go.... In recent times, the RBNZ has also been tasked with employment stats as well as inflation. Thats no longer, just inflation i.e. price stats

I wish you would focus on discussion than being totally negative. Its a discussion, no one cares if you agree or disagree, its JUST a discussion.

Ummm what belongs elsewhere

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#3163364 24-Nov-2023 20:27

New Zealand’s slapdash new government has no vision – only a plan to take us backwards | Lamia Imam | The Guardian

Peters has managed to secure an expansion of the Covid inquiry to include vaccine efficacy and rollout, a key issue for those who voted for him. Even though he has previously supported vaccination, he eked out support from those who don’t to make a return. The foreign homebuyer tax, which was going to pay for National’s tax cuts, is gone so it is unclear how National will find the funds to pay for it. Presumably it will be through further cuts to public services and additional taxes.

Act’s David Seymour, on the other hand, will not get his treaty referendum right away but a treaty principles bill to a select committee. He will be minister of regulations, ironically creating a whole new ministry just to cut red tape. We are getting repeals to fair pay agreements, three strikes and a return to tax breaks for landlords.

Politicians who complain we are not doing as well as Australia are quick to strike down legislation like the Fair Pay Agreements Act, which exists in Australia and is one of the major reasons why they have higher incomes than New Zealanders.

Instead of taking an evidence-based approach to justice policy, we will reinstate the three-strikes law that has largely been proven to not reduce crime. And the policies that increased first-time homebuyers will be dismantled to ensure landlords are prioritised once again. Peters will once again be minister of foreign affairs, a position he held in the previous Labour government.

Instead of a change forward it is merely taking us backwards to where we were six years ago. We don’t have a government that has a vision for the future, but one that is relying on nostalgia to regain power and ministerial titles.

What we are seeing is a haphazard direction towards fewer employment protections and opportunities for home ownership, more crime and a larger prison population, and the dismantling of treaty obligations that have reduced the deprivation gap between the general and Indigenous population, in order to hold on to power.

This isn’t a government founded on a vision to achieve specific goals but rather founded on a vision to be in government by any means necessary.

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#3163371 24-Nov-2023 20:54

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New Zealand’s slapdash new government has no vision – only a plan to take us backwards | Lamia Imam | The Guardian

Peters has managed to secure an expansion of the Covid inquiry to include vaccine efficacy and rollout, a key issue for those who voted for him. Even though he has previously supported vaccination, he eked out support from those who don’t to make a return. The foreign homebuyer tax, which was going to pay for National’s tax cuts, is gone so it is unclear how National will find the funds to pay for it. Presumably it will be through further cuts to public services and additional taxes.

Act’s David Seymour, on the other hand, will not get his treaty referendum right away but a treaty principles bill to a select committee. He will be minister of regulations, ironically creating a whole new ministry just to cut red tape. We are getting repeals to fair pay agreements, three strikes and a return to tax breaks for landlords.

Politicians who complain we are not doing as well as Australia are quick to strike down legislation like the Fair Pay Agreements Act, which exists in Australia and is one of the major reasons why they have higher incomes than New Zealanders.

Instead of taking an evidence-based approach to justice policy, we will reinstate the three-strikes law that has largely been proven to not reduce crime. And the policies that increased first-time homebuyers will be dismantled to ensure landlords are prioritised once again. Peters will once again be minister of foreign affairs, a position he held in the previous Labour government.

Instead of a change forward it is merely taking us backwards to where we were six years ago. We don’t have a government that has a vision for the future, but one that is relying on nostalgia to regain power and ministerial titles.

What we are seeing is a haphazard direction towards fewer employment protections and opportunities for home ownership, more crime and a larger prison population, and the dismantling of treaty obligations that have reduced the deprivation gap between the general and Indigenous population, in order to hold on to power.

This isn’t a government founded on a vision to achieve specific goals but rather founded on a vision to be in government by any means necessary.

Id rather go back to a JK govt that did little and crowed about the surplus

Covid, AKL. Yes that hurt. If the lockdowns then were loose, AKL already had many pockets of infection then. Lets avoid or reduce lockdown, then all of AKL is a petrie dish of infection. Labour then get bagged.

treaty principles bill Divisive. Maori vs non Maori. Older vs younger. Richer vs poorer. Sad to say the least.

we will reinstate the three-strikes law that has largely been proven to not reduce crime.

whole new ministry Isnt Dave wanting to reduce this??

Politicians who complain we are not doing as well as Australia are quick to strike down legislation like the Fair Pay Agreements Act, which exists in Australia and is one of the major reasons why they have higher incomes than New Zealanders. Self explanatory.

regain power To their credit, it worked

What we are seeing is a haphazard direction towards fewer employment protections and opportunities for home ownership, more crime and a larger prison population, and the dismantling of treaty obligations that have reduced the deprivation gap between the general and Indigenous population, in order to hold on to power. SAD

Seems to me to be the older white conservative male old school mentality.

I did hear that on C Hipkins media video that the new Government are "looking at free school lunches" Their words not his. Its effectively just Day One, but quite a revelation.

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#3163373 24-Nov-2023 21:02

freitasm:

New Zealand’s slapdash new government has no vision – only a plan to take us backwards | Lamia Imam | The Guardian

Peters has managed to secure an expansion of the Covid inquiry to include vaccine efficacy and rollout, a key issue for those who voted for him. Even though he has previously supported vaccination, he eked out support from those who don’t to make a return. The foreign homebuyer tax, which was going to pay for National’s tax cuts, is gone so it is unclear how National will find the funds to pay for it. Presumably it will be through further cuts to public services and additional taxes.

Act’s David Seymour, on the other hand, will not get his treaty referendum right away but a treaty principles bill to a select committee. He will be minister of regulations, ironically creating a whole new ministry just to cut red tape. We are getting repeals to fair pay agreements, three strikes and a return to tax breaks for landlords.

Politicians who complain we are not doing as well as Australia are quick to strike down legislation like the Fair Pay Agreements Act, which exists in Australia and is one of the major reasons why they have higher incomes than New Zealanders.

Instead of taking an evidence-based approach to justice policy, we will reinstate the three-strikes law that has largely been proven to not reduce crime. And the policies that increased first-time homebuyers will be dismantled to ensure landlords are prioritised once again. Peters will once again be minister of foreign affairs, a position he held in the previous Labour government.

Instead of a change forward it is merely taking us backwards to where we were six years ago. We don’t have a government that has a vision for the future, but one that is relying on nostalgia to regain power and ministerial titles.

What we are seeing is a haphazard direction towards fewer employment protections and opportunities for home ownership, more crime and a larger prison population, and the dismantling of treaty obligations that have reduced the deprivation gap between the general and Indigenous population, in order to hold on to power.

This isn’t a government founded on a vision to achieve specific goals but rather founded on a vision to be in government by any means necessary.

TLDR: Shock as Lefty rag criticises centre-right government. In other news, Pope discovered to be a catholic and ursine toilet habits discovered to have arboreal aspects

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#3163377 24-Nov-2023 21:18

shk292:

TLDR: Shock as Lefty rag criticises centre-right government. In other news, Pope discovered to be a catholic and ursine toilet habits discovered to have arboreal aspects

Sounds like you are a righty rag criticising a centre left government? Ive voted National more than a few times, but I dont have a blue tattoo

Take the partisan hat off and critique the post. Its a discussion.

But lefty rag, Pope, and toilet habits??? You arent doing the righty side any favours.

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#3163379 24-Nov-2023 21:33

My wife also used to work for the SPCA and this is absolutely disgusting and one of the things that disappoints me the most:

The new government will move ahead with reversing the ban on live animal exports and reform the National Animal Welfare Advisory Committee

Source: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/country/503166/the-new-parliamentary-ministers-for-the-primary-industry-sectors

More information on live exports: https://www.spca.nz/news-and-events/news-article/live-export-ban

Seriously to hell to anyone who thinks it is a good idea to reverse this...

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#3163382 24-Nov-2023 22:14

michaelmurfy:

My wife also used to work for the SPCA and this is absolutely disgusting and one of the things that disappoints me the most:

The new government will move ahead with reversing the ban on live animal exports and reform the National Animal Welfare Advisory Committee

Source: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/country/503166/the-new-parliamentary-ministers-for-the-primary-industry-sectors

More information on live exports: https://www.spca.nz/news-and-events/news-article/live-export-ban

Seriously to hell to anyone who thinks it is a good idea to reverse this...

It was not very heathy for the last crew either.
I guess the whole thing about us having superior animal genetics is wrong.
You set up your future competition, your present customer.

Short term returns a future farming generation will deal with.

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#3163386 24-Nov-2023 22:48

Hipkins says it's almost certain National's tax cuts will be financed with borrowing.

Those did not look well balanced even with National's now redundant foreign buyer tax. Well.. here we go. Interesting times.

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#3163389 24-Nov-2023 22:53

Seeing the elections are done and we have a new government now, I have created a new thread: Christopher Luxon, New Zealand Prime Minister 2023 (geekzone.co.nz)

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