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#3350791 6-Mar-2025 20:14

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gisborne-school-student-in-ae-with-burns-from-hot-school-lunch/OQAAORE6KNDVXB6OQTPK3QJDC4/

And now a kid gets burned while trying to open their school lunch from the new! improved! arrangement.

[Ilminster Intermediate School principal Jonathan] Poole said some meals looked like they could have had plastic melted into them.

Didn't we have this happen the other day too? Does Seymour even give a crap anymore? 😠

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#3350804 6-Mar-2025 22:31

I assume if we all pay more taxes we can fund more welfare/health initiatives. This is probably why Australia is looking like an attractive option to so many as they seem to have endless wealth. But back here in our little land where demand for the tax dollar is enormous, the cupboard is a little bare.

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#3350853 7-Mar-2025 08:20

Thats the eternal battle isn't it -

Grow the economy, create more jobs/businesses and thereby grow the tax base organically, or, increase the tax burden on existing taxpayers by getting them to pay more. I hate with a passion the "their fair share" argument that is often used for soundbites, for the majority of the country, there is little option but to pay taxes at prescribed rates thanks to our relatively straight forward PAYE and GST systems. Are there some that use various mechanisms to minimise tax, for sure, the same as there are some that use various mechanisms to ensure they get the most (more than they are entitled to) from the tax payer, but these categories will always exist.

The Govt were simply stupid to push through with tax breaks in the first year, they could have committed to tax breaks in the first term and that would have sufficed, or they could have limited the tax relief to the PAYE earners who have very little ability to do anything about the amount of tax they pay, again, that would have sufficed, or they could have done a myriad of other things to show smart economic management (taken savings from wasteful spending and applied it to key areas like health and education), but they didn't.

Will the Govt get a 2nd term, unlikely on the current performance. I would expect to see either Act or NZF to lose voters in droves, if for nothing else, the current mess shows how difficult a 3 party coalition is

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#3350861 7-Mar-2025 08:37

Like I said earlier, I would much rather have not had a tax cut and school children could have continued having good lunches, not Seymour's slop. Or Dunedin could have had the new hospital National campaigned on them getting, not the cut-down version they're trying to sell now. Landlords didn't need a tax break either - there's so much good stuff they could have done with that money they gave them. And so on.

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#3350879 7-Mar-2025 09:35

sen8or:

Thats the eternal battle isn't it -

Grow the economy, create more jobs/businesses and thereby grow the tax base organically,

The problem is that when governments of the past 20 years+ have tried to 'grow the economy' what they really meant was 'make house prices go up'. Technically, yes, the economy grows when you do that, but the result is only that a small group of people already wealthy enough to own more houses than they can live in, get wealthier. It doesn't create jobs, and it definitely doesn't increase the tax base.

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#3350880 7-Mar-2025 09:40

sen8or:

Will the Govt get a 2nd term, unlikely on the current performance. I would expect to see either Act or NZF to lose voters in droves, if for nothing else, the current mess shows how difficult a 3 party coalition is

I didn't buy the coalition issues as an excuse for nothing happening in the first term of Ardern's government and I don't accept it as being the biggest issue for the current one. Equal parts poor decisions, poor performance and a sad reality of the mess of the country's finances they have inherited, although that doesn't wash because that's why they were elected in the first place.

Seems like we swapped one poorly performing government for another.

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#3351117 7-Mar-2025 17:41

ROFL. I don't know who made this:

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#3351296 8-Mar-2025 09:58

A Duncan Garner opinion piece where he speculates that Luxon's days as leader are numbered - and he won't be leading National into the next election: https://archive.ph/ambNK

National MPs have found his attempts to connect with voters cringeworthy. He struggles around the battlers, he lacks authenticity, he looks and sounds out of touch when talking about poverty, cost-of-living issues or school lunches, and largely has nothing to say and seems to stand for even less.

Telling parents to make a marmite sandwich and grab an apple if they don’t like the free school lunch was patronising. If it was an attempt to be on the street and in touch, it fell flat.

Too right.

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#3351297 8-Mar-2025 09:59

The incompetence levels are astounding. And some people will still vote for these clowns when next election comes.

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#3351323 8-Mar-2025 12:38

quickymart:

A Duncan Garner opinion piece where he speculates that Luxon's days as leader are numbered - and he won't be leading National into the next election: https://archive.ph/ambNK

I for one hope he stays. He'll be much easier to defeat than someone likeable and competent. Although they're going to have to look outside caucus to find someone who's both.

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#3351324 8-Mar-2025 12:45

Labour National Labour National Tweedledum Tweedledee back and forth back and forth. Who cares?

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#3352349 10-Mar-2025 20:26

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/544327/chris-hipkins-overtakes-christopher-luxon-as-preferred-prime-minister-in-taxpayers-union-curia-poll

Another poll showing National behind Labour - and this one comes from National's own pollster (the Taxpayers union crowd). Sure a lot can happen in 18 months but if I was Luxon I'd be wanting to eventually arrest this trend from continuing.

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#3352436 11-Mar-2025 06:36

SaltyNZ:

I for one hope he stays. He'll be much easier to defeat than someone likeable and competent. Although they're going to have to look outside caucus to find someone who's both.

Hipkins strongly hinting the Labour platform will involve inheritance taxes at his major policy speech last week. The Nats may not even need someone likeable, just one that sounds vaguely competent. Personally I'd say Bishop is the most likely cab off the rank. I'm not seeing anyone else in that line-up that screams leadership material. Willis is obviously not afraid of decision making but I hear here on RNZ in the mornings and it makes me really miss the ability of Key, English, Ardern (even Hipkins is good at this) at speaking off the cuff and actually engaging in a conversation that goes beyond sloganeering.

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#3352445 11-Mar-2025 07:38

GV27:

Hipkins strongly hinting the Labour platform will involve inheritance taxes at his major policy speech last week. The Nats may not even need someone likeable, just one that sounds vaguely competent. Personally I'd say Bishop is the most likely cab off the rank. I'm not seeing anyone else in that line-up that screams leadership material. Willis is obviously not afraid of decision making but I hear here on RNZ in the mornings and it makes me really miss the ability of Key, English, Ardern (even Hipkins is good at this) at speaking off the cuff and actually engaging in a conversation that goes beyond sloganeering.

Danyl Mclauchlan had a story on this just a few days ago: https://archive.ph/cjF1q

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#3352449 11-Mar-2025 07:50

Rikkitic:

Labour National Labour National Tweedledum Tweedledee back and forth back and forth. Who cares?

It was Dumber and Dumberer last time. It's why I didn't vote.

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