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  #2415419 10-Feb-2020 09:57
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10 years ago I was on ADSL 2 with Maxnet. Peak speed was something like 8 / 1 Mbit/s, being a few Ks from the exchange.



Up until July of 2019 I was on ADSL2 with 10mbit and I live 2km from the TIB exchange, funny thing is my neighbour 2 doors down had 70mbit VDSL as her cable ran the other way towards the TIB/B Cabinet - I was offered to have my cable re-jumpered but as UFB was just around the corner I just sucked it up until the roll out was completed.

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  #2419620 13-Feb-2020 22:56
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The physical link layer is why the routing hops go in some instances all the way to the USA and back to Sydney then up to Singapore. It's not an efficient path but done to save money. Its all about the ISP choosing what they want to spend their money on.

Traffic heading to Singapore is going to be low priority, ISP's main priority is to get their customers traffic to the main destination which is very much San Fran and Oz.

Spark for example part owns the actual southern Cross cable network, (SCCN) between Sydney, Auckland and San Fran along with Optus and a US telco. That of course gives Spark and Optus an inherent advantage over an ISP that doesn't.

ISP's without ownership of cables have to buy virtual circuits across this series of physical cables and can choose options such as redundant paths, variable and committed virtual circuit rates, time of day, etc.

Telstra's old REACH networks moving traffic between Sydney and Asia and every other international cable also are operated in the same manner.

ISP's can have the best switching and routers money can buy and quick local networking within NZ but that all leads to a mediocre result if they don't invest sufficiently in the international bandwidth.

Telstra is a giant in Oz but was notorious for poor levels of investment in offshore cables.

With Vodafone and Voyager if they don't have an ownership stake in a subsea cable leaving NZ then they are just like any other ISP's and renting virtual capacity from a Telco that does.

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  #2419678 14-Feb-2020 08:30
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2degrees Chch




     Server: 2degrees - Christchurch (id = 922)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:     1.85 ms   (0.22 ms jitter)
   Download:   909.43 Mbps (data used: 433.2 MB)
     Upload:   532.29 Mbps (data used: 537.6 MB)


     Server: Vodafone New Zealand - Auckland (id = 4953)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:    16.42 ms   (0.21 ms jitter)
   Download:   363.46 Mbps (data used: 634.7 MB)
     Upload:   501.52 Mbps (data used: 616.2 MB)


     Server: Windstream - Los Angeles, CA (id = 18401)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:   139.75 ms   (0.31 ms jitter)
   Download:   576.71 Mbps (data used: 822.8 MB)
     Upload:   205.60 Mbps (data used: 365.9 MB)


     Server: Spectrum - Los Angeles, CA (id = 16974)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:   143.57 ms   (0.32 ms jitter)
   Download:   626.27 Mbps (data used: 895.7 MB)
     Upload:   299.97 Mbps (data used: 522.3 MB)


     Server: Telstra - Sydney (id = 2629)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:    38.40 ms   (0.65 ms jitter)
   Download:   911.63 Mbps (data used: 1.2 GB)
     Upload:   487.76 Mbps (data used: 689.6 MB)


     Server: MyRepublic - Singapore (id = 5935)
        ISP: 2degrees Broadband
    Latency:   329.62 ms   (0.28 ms jitter)
   Download:   459.26 Mbps (data used: 610.4 MB)
     Upload:   198.08 Mbps (data used: 257.9 MB)


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Finally got Voyager fibre, here are my results from 10:30pm ish




Server 1: Vodafone, Auckland





Server 1.1: 2degrees, Auckland





Server 2: Windstream, Los Angeles, CA





Server 2.1: 2degrees, Los Angeles, CA





Server 3: Spectrum, Los Angeles, CA





Server 4: Telstra, Sydney (weird routing on this one, check Server 4.1)





Server 4.1: 2degrees, Sydney





Server 5: MyRepublic, Singapore


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