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Reply # 182425 6-Dec-2008 03:03
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Yeah, the N97 is all sorts of awesome. The screen itself is mindboggling, and the dual input system (touch + qwerty k/b) really seals the deal.

I am still inseparable from My E71, but it's beginning to feel a bit...plain. Embarassed

The N97 seems like the killer combo of E+N series devices. Definitely on my shopping list. I was looking forward to the 5800, but I think I'll skip that and wait for the N97.

 


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  Reply # 182481 6-Dec-2008 15:28
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sbiddle: Won't work on Telecom - it's a UMTS 900/2100 device


biddleFAIL

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N97

/me can see WCDMA850 in that list

(to everyone else, don't get excited that it has both WCDMA 850 and WCDMA 900, there is a very high chance this is like all the other Nokia's with 2+ variants, WCDMA 850 in one, WCDMA 900 in the other)

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  Reply # 182487 6-Dec-2008 15:54
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Ok...

3G Telecom = 850/2100 HSDPA
3G Vodafone = 900/2100 HSDPA

Sooo....if they release the HSDPA 900/2100 variant of N97 here, that will be best for Vodafone, but if one wanted to go with Telecom, one could get the 'American' version, which would likely include HSDPA 850/2100?......or would the American version more likely be 850/1900, which would not be best for Telecom?




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  Reply # 182489 6-Dec-2008 16:03
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TheBartender: Ok...

3G Telecom = 850/2100 HSDPA
3G Vodafone = 900/2100 HSDPA


Correct.

TheBartender: Sooo....if they release the HSDPA 900/2100 variant of N97?here, that will be best for Vodafone, but if one wanted to go with Telecom, one could get the 'American' version, which would likely include HSDPA 850/2100?......or would the American version more likely be 850/1900, which would not be best for Telecom?


Try not to give them country names, that makes it confusing! The E71 comes as E71-1, E71-2 and E71-3 - from memory those 3 variants are broken down very similar to the way you have grouped the different bands.

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  Reply # 182491 6-Dec-2008 16:16
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scottjpalmer: Try not to give them country names, that makes it confusing! The E71 comes as E71-1, E71-2 and E71-3 - from memory those 3 variants are broken down very similar to the way you have grouped the different bands.

I only use the name 'American' version as that's what they call it on GSMArena...(due to the bands being used in America)

The N96 for example, is spec like so:
3G: HSDPA: 900/2100
3G: HSDPA: 850/1900 - American version

So back to my original question...
If one wanted one of these to use on Telecom's new 3G network, they would want 850/2100 (hence the 'American' version)...
But will the 'American' version have 850/2100, or will it actually have 850/1900? (which will be no good for 3G on Telecom's ne network)




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  Reply # 182507 6-Dec-2008 18:45
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Like I said, the E71 has 3 different variants so we will just have to wait and see what Nokia do with the N97.

For Telecom, the 850 WCDMA bit is the important bit. Someone will be able to confirm at some stage but I assume Telecom will have 850 coverage EVERYWHERE, supplemented by the early deployed 2100 but no more 2100 is being deployed.

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  Reply # 182508 6-Dec-2008 18:47
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Very impressive.

I have to agree with Adamal in a way - the Symbian core needs to be overhauled. I've played with many Symbian devices and they seem to be relying on the chips to get faster rather than streamlining the code (to which they add even MORE features). That said, Symbian has proven itself the world over. I'll take my copy/paste over flashy iPhone icons any day.


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  Reply # 183788 12-Dec-2008 22:39
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Definately want this one.. Hope the price aint too hefty!

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  Reply # 185801 23-Dec-2008 12:42
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OMG!!

That is the phone I was detined to own. There is a scroll hidden in a clay jar somewhere in the arid mountains of the middle east that fortold this!!! (sorry for the digression but I had to put how I felt into words!)

I'd come to the conclusion that slide/dual-slide/flip phones had been given notice in view of touch-screen bricks (iPhone) entering the market, but having seen the N97 qwerty-slide/touch combination I'll have to re-evaluate my stance.

The only problems facing the N97 (branding and firmware issues aside) would be build quality. My N95 is great, but creaks, slight wobbles in the slider, battery cover, and overall 'plastic' feel almost taints the experience of owning it. I'd expect the N97 to feel solid and to slide with precision, especially at the price of a cheap laptop.

Any mass produced item that has moving parts is on a countdown till some stops working or moving properly (e.g. my brand new Sony DSC-H50, previous flip-phones), hence my initial conclusion about flip/slide phones.

I had considered waiting for the 'IPhone v2' (i.e. the next big thing) but wow the N97 has it all!

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  Reply # 185811 23-Dec-2008 13:23
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Yep it is one cool phone, I think i will be swaping my PDA to N97 now

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  Reply # 191166 21-Jan-2009 22:56
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Yay, as reported below, it looks like the N97 is due out at the end of March!  We can expect them in parallel imported shops a couple of weeks after I suppose!

http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2009/01/nokia-n97-possibly-available-on-march-31st.html

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  Reply # 191170 21-Jan-2009 23:03
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Hmmmm, I very much doubt it to be honest...

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  Reply # 191610 23-Jan-2009 16:22
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Jeffthechef: Hmmmm, I very much doubt it to be honest...


same.If it releases in march you'll know the price by the end of march not like end of january

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  Reply # 192635 29-Jan-2009 00:56
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In the article linked here they mention two versions of the phone: a "Euro variant, with tri-band 3G (900/1900/2100MHz)" and a "NAM variant, also with tri-band 3G (850/1900/2100MHz)". Assuming the article is correct this means there will be a "Vodafone" version and a "Telecom" version. Pitty they can't make one device that'll work perfectly on both networks.
I think I'll wait until Telecom rolls out their new network before I buy a new phone. Mean time, I'll keep slogging on with my old Sony Ericsson K750i, assuming the joystick keeps working (had to pull it appart and clean it recently). The Nokia 5800 looks interesting, but onscreen touch keyboards don't really appeal. I already hate texting using T9 and real buttons, but have to do it anyway to keep the girlfriend happy. Sadly, I don't think I could justify $1500 for a N97 - that sort of money is starting to make significant inroads toward some other large ticket items like an ok car or a decent AV reciever.

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