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  # 889653 4-Sep-2013 13:24
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michaelmurfy: I see nobody has said Windows Phone? This doesn't solve the whole "physical keyboard" thing but I find the operating system great for what the OP has described.


Apart from Paulthagerous, Kiwinz, Freatism, and Paulmilbank, no one mentioned Winphone. Pub lunch :)

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  # 889654 4-Sep-2013 13:25
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Oops just re-read op, and wanted a q, well get a sqn3 variant sorry.

 
 
 
 


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  # 889659 4-Sep-2013 13:36
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kiwitrc:
michaelmurfy: I see nobody has said Windows Phone? This doesn't solve the whole "physical keyboard" thing but I find the operating system great for what the OP has described.


Apart from Paulthagerous, Kiwinz, Freatism, and Paulmilbank, no one mentioned Winphone. Pub lunch :)


Whoops, fail - I must admit I skim read it and it's still the morning for me ;)




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  # 889664 4-Sep-2013 13:49
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Maybe you need to specify what android devices you have used. You get what you pay for, so sounds like you have been using older or lower spec ones. I like others haven't had major problem with crashing. iphone apps also crash, but both iOS and the android OS are pretty reliable. Maybe look at the windows phone offerings.

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  # 889665 4-Sep-2013 13:50
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mattwnz: Maybe you need to specify what android devices you have used. You get what you pay for, so sounds like you have been using older or lower spec ones. I like others haven't had major problem with crashing. iphone apps also crash, but both iOS and the android OS are pretty reliable. Maybe look at the windows phone offerings.


I agree, what device are you using now OP?




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  # 889666 4-Sep-2013 13:50
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michaelmurfy:
kiwitrc:
michaelmurfy: I see nobody has said Windows Phone? This doesn't solve the whole "physical keyboard" thing but I find the operating system great for what the OP has described.


Apart from Paulthagerous, Kiwinz, Freatism, and Paulmilbank, no one mentioned Winphone. Pub lunch :)


Whoops, fail - I must admit I skim read it and it's still the morning for me ;)


And Mattwnz :) :)



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  # 889703 4-Sep-2013 14:37
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what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.

 
 
 
 


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  # 889713 4-Sep-2013 14:47
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markwolk:
what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.


Yah I have to say buy an HTC One or Samsung Galaxy S4, and everything but the keyboard issues should go away. I think you would be blown away by the HTC. 

I know I was and I have tried a LOT of phones. Still have the S4 though  :) 


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  # 889718 4-Sep-2013 14:58
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markwolk:
what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.


Feiteng M2 Android, 1Ghz single processor with 256MB RAM!!!

That's like complaining why 1982 mini can't overtake like a 2010 Audi!





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markwolk:
what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.


That does make sense based on a lot of our experiences.

Is there any chance you can borrow a nice Android from someone?  Because I often hear people say 'I really want a physical keyboard', but after a few weeks with a good droid it's all forgotten about.  And you have to sacrifice screen size or weight to have one.

Have you had a bit of a play with a BB10 running device?  The people I know that have used one really don't like the software.

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markwolk:
what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.


Feiteng M2 Android, 1Ghz single processor with 256MB RAM!!!

That's like complaining why 1982 mini can't overtake like a 2010 Audi!


Personally, I think that's a bit harsh on the OP.  A lot of people don't realise the vastly different experience that is offered by a high end device.  Our job as geeks is to educate them :)

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  # 889778 4-Sep-2013 16:21
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markwolk:
what device are you using now OP?


I admit: cheap unbranded M2 phone. I had also used various Archos devices and an unbranded tablet.

Assuming my frustration with Android is due to poor hardware, there is still the issue of the absence of a physical keyboard. That is why I was leaning towards Blackberry.


That does make sense based on a lot of our experiences.

Is there any chance you can borrow a nice Android from someone?  Because I often hear people say 'I really want a physical keyboard', but after a few weeks with a good droid it's all forgotten about.  And you have to sacrifice screen size or weight to have one.

Have you had a bit of a play with a BB10 running device?  The people I know that have used one really don't like the software.


Funny you say that, without exception every person I have heard talk about them thought that after some initial working out the interface they loved it. 

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  # 889787 4-Sep-2013 16:40
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michaelmurfy: I see nobody has said Windows Phone? This doesn't solve the whole "physical keyboard" thing but I find the operating system great for what the OP has described.


 mentioned twice actually

having said that if OP wants a physical keyboard then you have to buy whats available. 

I agree with other posters , never had any issue with Android




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  # 889837 4-Sep-2013 18:00
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Just to show what's coming on 10.2 

Preview your messages even when screen is locked



Gotta love the hub! From any app including android sideloaded ones.


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zocster: Just to show what's coming on 10.2 

Preview your messages even when screen is locked



Gotta love the hub! From any app including android sideloaded ones.


Now THIS is what I am looking forward to for my Z10! I love my Blackberry and its a really nice handset. There are some excellent apps available (try The Guardian) and 10.2 will just make the platform much better.

Plus the focus on security is a positive point for me. The fact that Google 'knows' so much about you with Google phones and MS has admitted 'helping' the NSA etc. with Windows phones are a turn off. If you want some more good reasons I suggest Crackberry.com - they recently had a post about why BB was better than the alternatives.

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