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  # 249262 21-Aug-2009 06:43
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Woollyman:

With the Vodafone SIM in it doesn't matter what is written in the APN - it still has "internet" for 2degrees yet works fine on Vodafone.


Thanks!


by the sounds of it, it has all been unlocked with a code like mine. Is your vodafone on account or prepaid?

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  # 249271 21-Aug-2009 07:31
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My Vodafone is pre-pay......

 
 
 
 


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  # 249273 21-Aug-2009 07:35
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Woollyman: My Vodafone is pre-pay......


and you still have the native BB browser? or are you using opera? Thus far I have not been able to get internet on 2degrees, so I gave up.

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  # 249921 23-Aug-2009 21:21
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Yes it is the native BB browser, Vodafone Live works perfectly on pre pay.
Today I put the 2Degrees SIM in my wife's Sharp GX17 and of course the Internet works fine..... arrggghhhh Blackberry!

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  # 257015 19-Sep-2009 13:15
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I then got an error message: Your device does not currently have any Browser Configuration Service Book Entries. Please contact your service provider to enable the Browser on your device.


Service books have to be downloaded from RIM, if you clear your phone you will need to download them again. 2degrees will have to pay RIM to be connected. RIM services should be unavailable on NZ prepay regardless of provider.



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  # 261775 6-Oct-2009 17:22
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just an update on whats happened...

after putting it off for a while i updated the blackberry OS from 4.2 to 4.5 (in a last ditch attempt to get the internet working).
I had a scare last night when something went wrong and the BB was left without any Operating system at all... and just left me a simple 507 error notice, i finally got it going again this morning with some very basic programs (JM_cmdr, etc) and it was all go!

installed some applications etc on it (Opera mini, and i now have video recording!) and now the internet is running fine... turns out some old service books from when it was connected to vodafone enterprise was holding it back. 

but ive just noticed (when i went to download google maps and it wouldnt let me) that there is no native Blackberry Browser to be seen... ive found that this was caused by the absence of the vodafone service books that were restricting internet access before the system restore.

all i need to know now is how do i get these service books back? (browser ones not enterprise)
in order to get my browser back... i can still use the internet, just not download from it, without the browser.


 i wouldnt think 2degrees would want or have anything to do with it, vodafone woulnt exactly approve of my change to 2degrees, and the blackberry site keeps redirecting me back to the vodafone site.

anyone for ideas? i only really want to run google maps, facebook apps, etc

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  # 261780 6-Oct-2009 17:30
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Thing is service books are supplied by RIM when you pay for the service, not carrier dependent at all. Glad that you have upgraded to 4.5, the Vodafone UK has the latest .163 release. If you were on account with Vodafone (not sure with Telecom) there are ways of getting the native BB browser on if you have at least a casual data plan. GPRS is in caps other than small, so would edge in the case of 2 degrees.



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  # 261791 6-Oct-2009 18:08
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so from what i now understand, theres no way to get the service books unless i go on account with Vodafone / Telecom, or untill 2degrees offers a blackberry plan.... would vodafone service books work for 2degrees or are they completely different (i saw the get service books button on the vodafone site, but you have to have an email hooked up in order to use them)
(ive tried the get settings option on the 2degrees website but that only seems to work for the 8320 model, and i doubt that would provide service books)

so why would RIM restrict the use of the browser through service books? i would have only thought they would only be for email and the like for when you were setting up emails, etc

Help much appreciated


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williamirvine67: so from what i now understand, theres no way to get the service books unless i go on account with Vodafone / Telecom, or untill 2degrees offers a blackberry plan.... would vodafone service books work for 2degrees or are they completely different (i saw the get service books button on the vodafone site, but you have to have an email hooked up in order to use them)
(ive tried the get settings option on the 2degrees website but that only seems to work for the 8320 model, and i doubt that would provide service books)

so why would RIM restrict the use of the browser through service books? i would have only thought they would only be for email and the like for when you were setting up emails, etc

Help much appreciated



not necessary to have a BIS just an on account data plan, not sure how it works in the back end, but if you have an on account plan, the writing GPRS or EDGE is in caps, where on prepay (at least on Vodafone), you can only have opera, where you can browse. This is from personal experience.



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  # 261801 6-Oct-2009 18:43
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ohh... i see what you are saying now, yea my edge is in lower case, always thought that was only because 2degrees hadnt released any data plans (which it kind of is).

im still confused though, because before i did the reinstall of the system the browser was still present, and i was on (lower-case) edge.
but the browser should reappear when 2degrees releases a data plan (and i sign up), is that the case?

thanks for your help


ohh... and with that newer UK 4.5 os would you recommend it? much diffrence from voda NZ 4.5?

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  # 261805 6-Oct-2009 18:54
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williamirvine67: ohh... i see what you are saying now, yea my edge is in lower case, always thought that was only because 2degrees hadnt released any data plans (which it kind of is).

im still confused though, because before i did the reinstall of the system the browser was still present, and i was on (lower-case) edge.
but the browser should reappear when 2degrees releases a data plan (and i sign up), is that the case?

thanks for your help


ohh... and with that newer UK 4.5 os would you recommend it? much diffrence from voda NZ 4.5?


yes on account data plan, it SHOULD be ok.

latest is always greatest

platform version varies from release to release. Just because a more recent release has a lower platform version, and Desktop Manager informs you that it is a "downgrade", it does not mean that it is not a newer version. As the package version increases, along with the application version, the build date becomes more recent.

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  # 261921 7-Oct-2009 07:08
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as far as i know about blackberry..

u need to purchase a subscription for the blackberry server..

in other words, u need to have blackberry internet service which is on vodafone they called it blackberry data plan.

in vodafone it cost like 40bucks for 10mb,where in telecom 35bucks for 400mb, but 2degrees havent have anykind of that service as they only have prepaid yet...

hope it helps.. this is my first post lol

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  # 261929 7-Oct-2009 07:51
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Going from 4.2 handset software to 4.5 will also resolve a issue of the blackberry 8100 / 8110 dropping phone calls

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  # 261942 7-Oct-2009 08:28
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johnr: Going from 4.2 handset software to 4.5 will also resolve a issue of the blackberry 8100 / 8110 dropping phone calls


Yep this is the latest release OS package breakdown for the 8310 that is...

Package Version: 257
Application Version: 4.5.0.163
Platform Version: 2.7.0.92

FILE 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8310-
v4.5.0.163_P2.7.0.92\GPRS\rim8310g.sfi':
OS Version: 2.7.0.92
Hardware ID: 0x8D000F03 RIM BlackBerry Device
Supported Bands: 0x0000FFFF
Metrics Version: 3.16
FS Code Version: 10.0.0.0
FAT Code Version: 2.13
Package Version: "2.7.0.92"
Build Date: May 15 2009
Build Time: 00:05:45
Build User: SCM
SV Number: 32
OS Address: 0x003C0000-0x00ACB2B7
App Start: 0x006F86C0

Companion Binary: 0.0.0.0

RAM usage: 0xA0000000-0xA0C50018
IRAM End: 0x1805FF00
DSP ROM2 Address: *not present*
OS Extended Addr: 0x008EBFF0
LDR Blocks: 0x009D3858

API Checksum: 0x00000000
JumpTable (<3): 0x006F6AD4
JumpTable (>2): 0x006F8330

Radio Code: Orpheus radio code linked
OS API Version: 103.17
STP Protocol Ver: 5.78.4 (release OS)

HWV:
Board Revision 0001 - [0x01 - 0xFF], 0x01
Board Sub-revision 0004 - [0x00 - 0xFF], 0x01
CPU Version 0002 - [0xC5 - 0xFF], 0x01
SW Compatibility 0003 - [0x00 - 0x01], 0x01
Power Mgt Hardware 0007 - [0x12 - 0xFF], 0x01

Version Table:
OS API Version: 103.17
FAT FS Version: 2.13
STP protocol version: 5.78.4
BlockFS API Version: 10.0.0.0
USB driver version: 01.07

Kernel Version: 1.9.0.115
Hardware ID: 0x8D000F03 RIM BlackBerry Device
Metrics Version: 1.1
Build Date: May 14 2009
Build Time: 23:45:57
Build User: SCM
App:
Version: 4.5.0.163
Metrics Version: 1.6
Build Date: May 15 2009
Build Time: 01:02:39
Build User: RIM
Memory Map: 0x006F86C0-0x008EBFEF
App c_main: 0x00834F64
API Checksum: 0x00000000
JumpTable (<3): 0x00000000
JumpTable (>2): 0x00000000
AppFSVersion: 2.0.0.0
AppFSSize: 0x0
OS API Version: 103.17
RAM Map: 0xA0C32000-0xA0C50018
IRAM Map: Unused
App Type: JVM



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DSPOS Version: 2.7.0.92
Metrics Version: 1.5
DSP OS Address: 0xD0000000-0xD005CD87
Overflow code: 0x00000000-0x00000000
Overlay Table: 0x00000000
LDR Blocks: 0x00000000
Radio Code: Orpheus radio code linked

Kernel Version: 1.9.0.115
Hardware ID: 0x8D000F03 RIM BlackBerry Device
Metrics Version: 1.1
Build Date: May 14 2009
Build Time: 23:39:40
Build User: SCM


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# 261970 7-Oct-2009 10:14
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To understand how Blackberry works better here is a thread on the Vodafone forums worth reading

http://forum.vodafone.co.nz/topic/1177-blackberry-help/

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