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# 108496 30-Aug-2012 11:17
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On cruising through JBHiFi recently I noticed they had the Onkyo TX-NR515 and 616 at 20% off. This brings them into a pretty good price bracket for the feature sets they have.
However, due to being burnt in the past, I hit the forums for reviews and problems. There is quite a lot of comment about these models having a somewhat flaky hdmi processor. Problems mainly centred around failure of the video out from the primary hdmi out (still has audio), necessitating at the least depowering the receiver or a factory reset. The units have had two firmware updates but still the problems are being reported.
Any owners care to comment on whether they have experienced any of the above? Or about the receivers in general.




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  # 679225 30-Aug-2012 12:51
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I have the Onkyo SR508, I think, that thing can cook eggs when it's doing Blu Ray. I've put a 140mm fan in the back of my home theatre unit, a $300 cheapy from Harvey Norman, even with that on full speed it gets pretty warm. I probably need to work on my airflow some time, and in open air it might be ok.

Other than the heat it's a good unit, haven't had a problem with it.



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  # 679238 30-Aug-2012 13:13
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timmmay: I have the Onkyo SR508, I think, that thing can cook eggs when it's doing Blu Ray. I've put a 140mm fan in the back of my home theatre unit, a $300 cheapy from Harvey Norman, even with that on full speed it gets pretty warm. I probably need to work on my airflow some time, and in open air it might be ok.

Other than the heat it's a good unit, haven't had a problem with it.


Yeah, I have the 606 and 608 so know what you mean by the heat. However it is the design features vs the possible faults of these models in particular that I want feedback on. So far, from my experience of the 606 and 608 I have only recommended them to people after letting them know that both my units have been back to the receiver hospital for repairs to.....the hdmi/video converter board. The features for the price are great, just not sure about build quality and reliability,




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  # 679259 30-Aug-2012 13:51
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Before our onkyo died a month or so ago, we had a 120mm fan in the back of the AV cabinet giving a good airflow over the top of it. Without it, it would have died much quicker.

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  # 679264 30-Aug-2012 14:07
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I'm considering cutting a hole under the receiver, hoping it draws cool air through the receiver. I could even help it with a bit of ducting, but that'd be a bit ugly and may not even work if it's not fitted well.

(Off topic, sorry)

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  # 679279 30-Aug-2012 14:43
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I have TX-NR509 and I don't notice the heat that some people are complaining about.

It's placed cramped together with the wii, apple tv, router, ps3, tivo...not much airflow around.  It's used daily for hours as all my devices including the tv audio are connected to it.  Haven't observed abnormal heating. 

I've been inspecting and monitoring that area closely due to recent cockroach sightings.

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  # 679294 30-Aug-2012 15:18
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russelo: I have TX-NR509 and I don't notice the heat that some people are complaining about.

It's placed cramped together with the wii, apple tv, router, ps3, tivo...not much airflow around.  It's used daily for hours as all my devices including the tv audio are connected to it.  Haven't observed abnormal heating. 

I've been inspecting and monitoring that area closely due to recent cockroach sightings.


It only gets really warm when you run 1080p 5.1 content. Other times it's warm, but not alarmingly so.

I read somewhere Onkyo did something about the heat at some point, maybe yours is new enough that it's got that change.

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  # 679304 30-Aug-2012 15:28
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I bought a TX-NR515 about 2 months ago. All in all I'm very pleased with it. We have the odd HDMI no sound issue but only with TiVo which could also be responsible.

Running KEF KHT2005.3 with it and very pleased with the home theatre performance.

 
 
 
 


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  # 679305 30-Aug-2012 15:28
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I bought a TX-NR515 about 2 months ago. All in all I'm very pleased with it. We have the odd HDMI no sound issue but only with TiVo which could also be responsible.

Running KEF KHT2005.3 with it and very pleased with the home theatre performance.



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  # 679317 30-Aug-2012 15:54
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Handle9: I bought a TX-NR515 about 2 months ago. All in all I'm very pleased with it. We have the odd HDMI no sound issue but only with TiVo which could also be responsible.

Running KEF KHT2005.3 with it and very pleased with the home theatre performance.


What other sources do you run through it? Do you use both hdmi outs? How good are the source preview thumbnails? That's all I can think of at the moment.




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  # 679331 30-Aug-2012 16:16
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Dingbatt:
Handle9: I bought a TX-NR515 about 2 months ago. All in all I'm very pleased with it. We have the odd HDMI no sound issue but only with TiVo which could also be responsible.

Running KEF KHT2005.3 with it and very pleased with the home theatre performance.


What other sources do you run through it? Do you use both hdmi outs? How good are the source preview thumbnails? That's all I can think of at the moment.


I'm running Tivo, MySky, Apple Tv, Samsung Blu Ray and a Roku. I don't use the preview thumbnails and I only use one Hdmi out. I was more interested in zone 2, which I'm planning to use for outdoor speakers this summer.

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  # 679500 30-Aug-2012 22:23
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In all honesty, Onkyo's reliability has been called into question quite a few times on here...
It could be due to people hot swapping HDMI cables, not enough ventilation, people pushing the receivers back into the cabinet and damaging HDMI ports - or, it could just be plain poor design and implementation.
With the cheap 'sell a box at all cost' pricing that Onkyo receives, I guess people are starting to question the brands worth. It still reviews well in UK mags like What Hifi though... having said that, they only have the amps for a small time frame, so it's not 'real world testing' really.
Would I buy one?
Nope.
However, in all honesty your choice of receiver would most likely be different from mine because you shouldn't really buy it on specs, instead you should choose it first and foremost on sound quality... then figure out the features you want from there.



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  # 679750 31-Aug-2012 14:41
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Dunnersfella: ......However, in all honesty your choice of receiver would most likely be different from mine because you shouldn't really buy it on specs, instead you should choose it first and foremost on sound quality... then figure out the features you want from there.


You are right, we differ on this point. Because the receiver is only powering a sub/satellite speaker package around a plasma and not my primary home theatre setup then features play a greater part in the decision than audio performance. When I bought my second ever HT receiver, a number of years ago now, I spent right up to what I could afford ,thousands in fact, only to have technology move on so rapidly that the only thing the receiver is really good at these days is something involving audio only. I have vowed not to make the same mistake again because, not being an audiophile, I struggle to pick up the 5% improvement in sound for the 100% increase in price.

Onkyo, particularly in their 4,5 and 6 series, have squarely placed themselves in the consumer market. While I would prefer to go Denon, Pioneer or Yamaha they are at least twice the price and may not stack up value-wise for every day TV watching. Reliability is the major caveat to that hence my initial questions.




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  # 679883 31-Aug-2012 20:00
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If you're worried about your setup being out-dated quickly, go down the power amp / processor route...
The power amp will be forever, the processor, well that will change over time.
Of course, that'll cost 10 times more than you've currently planned to spend. So... yeah.

Personally, I'd keep your options open and look at the 2nd hand market...

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