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jonathan18

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Reply # 753687 31-Jan-2013 10:12

33coupe: Thanks for that.

Have you noticed a difference between the 12 and 14?

I am contemplating between buying from 12AWG from BJC and 14awg from trademe etc.

Sorry, unable to do a comparrison - the 12 AWG cable is for the HT/sleepout we're building at the moment; the cable's in the walls but the build's not finished (plastering happening today, so not far off!).

Also, I'd need to compare the different cables on the same system to be meaningful, which isn't a practical option.

I'm sure either of these options will do fine for your needs - either way isn't a huge outlay. Good luck!

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Reply # 753733 31-Jan-2013 10:57

jaymz: hey dude, sorry to go way off topic, but i notice you listed the TX-NR515 receiver and am after your experiences with it.

Have you found any issues with the device coming out of standby? On the AVS forums, there has been lots of people complaining that the HDMI does no re-initialize when the device comes out of standby.

Onkyo have promised firmware fixes, but i can find little on if this fixed the issue or not.

I not that some users have noted that turning off the LAN Standby feature seems to stop the issue.

I have the TX-NR515 and have had a few issues with it. Occasionally it doesn't correctly identify the signal / have audio when you turn it on. This is with hdmi control on, turning on the tv and the amp automatically turns on. The input is set to pc which is always left on, lan standby feature is on.
This occurred with both an older geforce 9400 card and a new ASUS GT610-SL-1GD3-L GEFORCE video card. Also, occasionally when starting to watch videos the amp identifies the signal as a 1080p 60Hz signal instead of the 1080p 50Hz signal that it is. Changing inputs on the amp to a different input and then back to the pc input gets the amp to correctly identify the signal. Have only seen this happen with flash video playback.
This is with the latest international firmware (ends in 400) loaded by usb. Also, occasionally, the (nvidia) audio device is missing and I have to reinitialise the sound to get it to identify the amp / enable the video card audio. So, no, the problems have not been fixed.

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Reply # 753828 31-Jan-2013 13:01

dolsen:
I have the TX-NR515 and have had a few issues with it. Occasionally it doesn't correctly identify the signal / have audio when you turn it on. This is with hdmi control on, turning on the tv and the amp automatically turns on. The input is set to pc which is always left on, lan standby feature is on.
This occurred with both an older geforce 9400 card and a new ASUS GT610-SL-1GD3-L GEFORCE video card. Also, occasionally when starting to watch videos the amp identifies the signal as a 1080p 60Hz signal instead of the 1080p 50Hz signal that it is. Changing inputs on the amp to a different input and then back to the pc input gets the amp to correctly identify the signal. Have only seen this happen with flash video playback.
This is with the latest international firmware (ends in 400) loaded by usb. Also, occasionally, the (nvidia) audio device is missing and I have to reinitialise the sound to get it to identify the amp / enable the video card audio. So, no, the problems have not been fixed.

Ah that is a shame, big turn off for me with these receivers.

Will look at a nice Yamaha, or Denon instead. Thanks for the input, i wont hijack this thread anymore :)

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Reply # 753831 31-Jan-2013 13:04

jaymz:
dolsen:
I have the TX-NR515 and have had a few issues with it. Occasionally it doesn't correctly identify the signal / have audio when you turn it on. This is with hdmi control on, turning on the tv and the amp automatically turns on. The input is set to pc which is always left on, lan standby feature is on.
This occurred with both an older geforce 9400 card and a new ASUS GT610-SL-1GD3-L GEFORCE video card. Also, occasionally when starting to watch videos the amp identifies the signal as a 1080p 60Hz signal instead of the 1080p 50Hz signal that it is. Changing inputs on the amp to a different input and then back to the pc input gets the amp to correctly identify the signal. Have only seen this happen with flash video playback.
This is with the latest international firmware (ends in 400) loaded by usb. Also, occasionally, the (nvidia) audio device is missing and I have to reinitialise the sound to get it to identify the amp / enable the video card audio. So, no, the problems have not been fixed.

Ah that is a shame, big turn off for me with these receivers.

Will look at a nice Yamaha, or Denon instead. Thanks for the input, i wont hijack this thread anymore :)

And this is all just bad luck for me, as it's this model of receiver I picked up for the new HT!

Did you see the Yamaha receivers the Warehouse had for sale earlier in the week? One was an entry-level model while the other seemed further up the chain.

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Reply # 753834 31-Jan-2013 13:06

Dont worry about the hijacking, Im just as interested to know (although a bit late I guess as Ive ordered it).

I know there are problems, and did look into other receivers but they were just too expensive for me.

I just hope im one of the lucky ones!

If not I'll be taking it back.

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Reply # 753836 31-Jan-2013 13:10

33coupe: Dont worry about the hijacking, Im just as interested to know (although a bit late I guess as Ive ordered it).

I know there are problems, and did look into other receivers but they were just too expensive for me.

I just hope im one of the lucky ones!

If not I'll be taking it back.

What did you pay for it, BTW, if you don't mind me asking? I got mine a few months back when JB had it for a ridiculous price ($547.20 with free shipping). Of course, it's been sitting doing nothing in its box ever since...

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Reply # 753840 31-Jan-2013 13:11

jonathan18:
jaymz:
dolsen:
I have the TX-NR515 and have had a few issues with it. Occasionally it doesn't correctly identify the signal / have audio when you turn it on. This is with hdmi control on, turning on the tv and the amp automatically turns on. The input is set to pc which is always left on, lan standby feature is on.
This occurred with both an older geforce 9400 card and a new ASUS GT610-SL-1GD3-L GEFORCE video card. Also, occasionally when starting to watch videos the amp identifies the signal as a 1080p 60Hz signal instead of the 1080p 50Hz signal that it is. Changing inputs on the amp to a different input and then back to the pc input gets the amp to correctly identify the signal. Have only seen this happen with flash video playback.
This is with the latest international firmware (ends in 400) loaded by usb. Also, occasionally, the (nvidia) audio device is missing and I have to reinitialise the sound to get it to identify the amp / enable the video card audio. So, no, the problems have not been fixed.

Ah that is a shame, big turn off for me with these receivers.

Will look at a nice Yamaha, or Denon instead. Thanks for the input, i wont hijack this thread anymore :)

And this is all just bad luck for me, as it's this model of receiver I picked up for the new HT!

Did you see the Yamaha receivers the Warehouse had for sale earlier in the week? One was an entry-level model while the other seemed further up the chain.

So as not to thread hijack, i started a new thread here:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=34&topicid=113900

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Reply # 753848 31-Jan-2013 13:17

jpollock had this nailed near the beginning of this thread - mains cable works as well as pure silver cable for the cable lengths used in Home Theatre installations.
The human ear cannot detect the differences between $1/M mains cable and $300/M high end speaker cable.
The marketing machine pushing speaker cabling is clearly working.

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Reply # 753851 31-Jan-2013 13:19

No worries. I paid $560 for mine and $1000 for the speakers. I got it cheaper than retail price because someone i know, knows the manager.

Shame they dont do speaker cable, would have saved me quite a bit of hassle (and money).

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Reply # 757478 8-Feb-2013 19:01

I've been looking for speaker cable locally to try and get an idea of what is 12 gauge etc.

I went to Bunnings and they have 12awg OFC for $10 per metre. I got a sample, but thought it was a bit weird that the middle of the core came out.

the middle is mix of copper and what appears to be nylon or something.

Is this right!?!? Thought it was meant to be solid copper??

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Reply # 757496 8-Feb-2013 19:14

Haha, looks like a sneaky trick to make it look like more surface area than there is. Yes, most speaker cable doesn't have nylon in there, just copper strands :/

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Reply # 757514 8-Feb-2013 20:08

QED do something similar with their XT300 cable. However it's not nylon stranded, and it's not at Bunnings...

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