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  #765980 19-Feb-2013 21:08
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I would be keen to know how to get the roku player working in nz. Any threads on that?

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  #766009 19-Feb-2013 21:57
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Is there anything specifically illegal about using a VPN service to watch Netflix, other than violating Netflix's T&Cs? Was the reason Fyx dropped US streaming due to legal issues?




 


 
 
 
 


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  #766017 19-Feb-2013 21:59
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We're running TiVo + Apple TV + Netflix + Unblock US on Orcon Unlimited. Works a treat. Have a family member's iSky login for sport which gets streamed to the ATV with airplay mirroring ;)

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JonnyCam: So, can one sign up to Netflix with a non-US credit card?

I was looking at using, and wanted to know before I got too far down the track.



Takes my NZ card just fine.


Works fine with my ASB Visa and ANZ GlobalPlus Visas.




 


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  #766039 19-Feb-2013 22:19
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Peppery: Is there anything specifically illegal about using a VPN service to watch Netflix, other than violating Netflix's T&Cs? Was the reason Fyx dropped US streaming due to legal issues?


Nothing illegal. Fyx could face a legal threat from local copyright holders who are very belligerent, and seeing they were just selling Maxnet (owner) to Vocus, obviously they wouldn't want something like that in the way.




 

 

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  #766052 19-Feb-2013 22:38
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Klipspringer: Ditched Sky about a year ago.

Using Tivo to record the freeview stuff that we watch.

Have both Netflix and Hulu+ via unblock-us.

Also have Vudu for the Pay Per View stuff.

For Sports Im using cricfree.tv on my PC.

Only thing that I’m regretting is that I’m sending my money overseas, but I’m so glad I’m no longer supporting sky’s monopoly.

Sky has created this problem that there are no NZ alternatives, that’s why I have no issues violating Netflix’s and Hulus T&C.


I use vipbox.tv on my PC Cool




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  #766053 19-Feb-2013 22:38
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Peppery: Is there anything specifically illegal about using a VPN service to watch Netflix, other than violating Netflix's T&Cs? Was the reason Fyx dropped US streaming due to legal issues?


Nothing illegal. Fyx could face a legal threat from local copyright holders who are very belligerent, and seeing they were just selling Maxnet (owner) to Vocus, obviously they wouldn't want something like that in the way.


Under what basis would there be any legal merit to this? (not meaning to sound defensive, just purely curious) They aren't enabling copyright infringement and you still have to pay for the services you're consuming.

I'm surprised services a la Unblock-Us haven't come under fire if there was basis for a claim.




 


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  #766064 19-Feb-2013 22:47
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Perhaps because Fyx is based in New Zealand, so this other party would not have much problem going for them, instead of trying to find a VPN provider's offices in some obscure country?




 

 

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  #766185 20-Feb-2013 08:54
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Klipspringer:
1080p:

My point is that the streaming services available currently (even the ones not available here) are a poor substitute for currently available home media. Yet they are charged at a similar rate to physical media.

I have yet to see the difference between Vudu HDX (1080p) and a physical blue ray disc.

Maybe I need to go for an eye check-up. The quality on both is excellent.




What bit rates does Vudu HDX stream at?

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  #766222 20-Feb-2013 09:39
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1080p:
Klipspringer:
1080p:

My point is that the streaming services available currently (even the ones not available here) are a poor substitute for currently available home media. Yet they are charged at a similar rate to physical media.

I have yet to see the difference between Vudu HDX (1080p) and a physical blue ray disc.

Maybe I need to go for an eye check-up. The quality on both is excellent.




What bit rates does Vudu HDX stream at?


I was interested in knowing this too so had a bit of a look around, and there seems to be wildly different 'opinions' but the general IT press reports 4.5 to 9Mbps, with the ability to spike to 20Mbps.

http://www.missingremote.com/blog/vudu-video-demand-perfected
http://gizmodo.com/5058011/vudu-hdx-1080p-movie-downloads-reviewed-insanely-sharp

Even though this is very high for streaming, and far better than Netflix/Hulu/iTunes, as SlashGear notes it is still 1/2 the bitrate of a Blu-ray

http://www.slashgear.com/vudus-hdx-gets-official-not-a-threat-to-blu-ray-0217984/

However as noted on the Vudu forum, there is a big difference between a well-encoded Vudu movie and the same movie badly encoded as a Bluray, irrespective of bitrate.

http://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?t=55061

I do have a Vudu account, but haven't watched anything more than free offerings.  I will try out a few and report back (I use unblock-us by the way).


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  #766246 20-Feb-2013 10:14
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timbosan:
1080p:
Klipspringer:
1080p:

My point is that the streaming services available currently (even the ones not available here) are a poor substitute for currently available home media. Yet they are charged at a similar rate to physical media.

I have yet to see the difference between Vudu HDX (1080p) and a physical blue ray disc.

Maybe I need to go for an eye check-up. The quality on both is excellent.




What bit rates does Vudu HDX stream at?


I was interested in knowing this too so had a bit of a look around, and there seems to be wildly different 'opinions' but the general IT press reports 4.5 to 9Mbps, with the ability to spike to 20Mbps.

http://www.missingremote.com/blog/vudu-video-demand-perfected
http://gizmodo.com/5058011/vudu-hdx-1080p-movie-downloads-reviewed-insanely-sharp

Even though this is very high for streaming, and far better than Netflix/Hulu/iTunes, as SlashGear notes it is still 1/2 the bitrate of a Blu-ray

http://www.slashgear.com/vudus-hdx-gets-official-not-a-threat-to-blu-ray-0217984/

However as noted on the Vudu forum, there is a big difference between a well-encoded Vudu movie and the same movie badly encoded as a Bluray, irrespective of bitrate.

http://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?t=55061

I do have a Vudu account, but haven't watched anything more than free offerings.  I will try out a few and report back (I use unblock-us by the way).



Cheers for this.

Vudu also has the option to download and watch later. I know that this differs from streaming. Surely downloading first and watching later will give you the best possible picture?

Normally we just stream. But there have been times where I have selected download, and then started watching the movie despite the download still being in progress.

Also keep in mind that its only recently that Netflix has also lauched super HD. 1080p. with some of the movies in 3D.

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  #766248 20-Feb-2013 10:22
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Malingo: I would be keen to know how to get the roku player working in nz. Any threads on that?


Yes its very easy. We have a Roku setup on our second TV. You just need to setup your router for unblock-us first.

See this thread

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  #766249 20-Feb-2013 10:27
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If I got (say) unotelly, I'd get some FTA channels which aren't normally accessible in NZ, but if I wanted Netflix I'd then have to subscribe directly with them.

Have I got that right?

Is it easy/possible to record the content to watch later?




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  #766252 20-Feb-2013 10:31
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turb: If I got (say) unotelly, I'd get some FTA channels which aren't normally accessible in NZ, but if I wanted Netflix I'd then have to subscribe directly with them.

Have I got that right?

Is it easy/possible to record the content to watch later?


Yes, you subscribe directly with Netflix. There are two steps.

1. Setup a VPN or Unblock US (free trial with Unblock US)

2. Once your VPN is up and running just navigate to netflix.com and sign up. The tricky bit is whether your credit card gets accepted.

Watching later you can use something like playlater from playon.tv. I haven't used it but looks very straightforward. Anyone care to comment on using Playlater?

Cheers, Matt.




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  #766288 20-Feb-2013 10:56
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Is unblock-us just for the US? I'm probably more interested in UK content & UK Netflix.

(This next bit probably belongs in a different forum, but I don't know where to put it).

Is it possible to buy plane tickets at UK prices using these type of services? I have a UK credit card.




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  #766291 20-Feb-2013 10:58
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You can configure Unblock US to use the UK. Just take a look at their home page.

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