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  Reply # 783580 18-Mar-2013 18:59
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A terrible result all the way around :-)
Maybe try a plasma next time for the best black levels, true to life colour and no light bleeding?

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  Reply # 783593 18-Mar-2013 19:19
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yeh im waiting for the VT60 plasma to be released then ill get that one. I believe that this could be the last of plasmas done by Panasonic

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 783597 18-Mar-2013 19:24
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I doubt it'll be the last year. Their plasma factory in Japan is still pushing out a looooaaadddd of panels.
Look how long it has taken for non-led lit LCD's to disappear!

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  Reply # 784405 20-Mar-2013 13:07
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Or you could wait around even longer and get an OLED when they come out haha.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34451_1-57562772/panasonic-unleashes-first-prototype-4k-oled/

 

EDIT: Actually, am not sure but they might be here already? Probably ludicrously expensive though.

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  Reply # 784425 20-Mar-2013 13:33
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i just read somewhere that samsung were going to hold an even tomorrow in NYC to release new tvs.. i am in the market to get a new tv..but no such rush..my 46 inch sony from 2010 is holding up quite well...but i have experienced lots of ghosting on it and a 46 inch in my lounge just looks way to small now...

was looking at getting a panasonic 60 inch plasma or a sony 55inch led...but i will be holding it off for a few more months at least.

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  Reply # 784462 20-Mar-2013 14:00
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Went and bought a 1080p projector last week and a 120" screen. Best purchase in ages, retiring the 50" plasma to the bedroom and will use the PJ as the daily "tv"

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  Reply # 784465 20-Mar-2013 14:02
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garvani: Went and bought a 1080p projector last week and a 120" screen. Best purchase in ages, retiring the 50" plasma to the bedroom and will use the PJ as the daily "tv"



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  Reply # 784516 20-Mar-2013 14:59
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haha.. thought id throw it out there! The picture quality of a 1080p projector is something to behold, long gone are the blurry slightly out of focus svga images. The only problem is you need a light controlled environment which isn't possible for many. But being that we don't have the tv on during the week till ~7pm its not really a problem for us.

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  Reply # 784520 20-Mar-2013 15:12
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You know, Bond+Bond are having their 'Closing Down Sale'. You should make an offer on a TV. 'All serious offers considered'.


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  Reply # 785153 21-Mar-2013 19:14
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Dunnersfella: I doubt it'll be the last year. Their plasma factory in Japan is still pushing out a looooaaadddd of panels.
Look how long it has taken for non-led lit LCD's to disappear!


The latest on Panasonic.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonic-set-to-pull-out-of-plasma-tvs


Sources at the company told the Japanese press the company would reduce plasma TV production gradually in consideration of relationships with retailers and other partners, and will consider withdrawing from that sector of the market during the 2014-15 financial year.


It has already reportedly halted development of any new plasma models, and earlier this year announced the closure of its plasma TV factory in Shanghai.

LCD production will also be scaled back. The company's expected to have bought in 70% of the display panels it used this financial year, and next year it will increase that buy-in, using partners such as LG Display.

 

Its state of the art LCD panel factory in Himeji (above) will be turned over to making more profitable small-size LCDs, for use in devices such as smartphones and tablets.

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  Reply # 785275 22-Mar-2013 00:05
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But in other parts of the article they say that Panasonic are looking at all areas of their business...

"Other reports in Japan suggest the company is to sell its healthcare business and use the proceeds to boost its TV business, but it's not clear whether this sale would fund the OEL development program or be used to help offset the costs of the plasma/LCD pull-back.

Panasonic responded to the reports with a statement that no specific decisions have yet been made, but talks on its entire business strategy are ongoing."

Whether it's reality or gossip, I don't know. They can push 600,000 panels out of their Osaka factory per month, so if it's not doing that, then it wouldn't make much sense... However they've invested a lot of money in, what, is a very high tech factory, so I'd be surprised it they closed it. It would of course make sense if they re-purposed it as an OLED factory.


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  Reply # 787136 26-Mar-2013 11:59
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mattwnz:
1080p: Personally, I'd wait to buy a new television. The first OLED models are being released this year. Give it a few generations of them and then buy an OLED.


You will be waiting a good number of years before they are down to LCD prices. Perhaps 5 years at least. Depends though whether you want to pay 10k-20k for a TV. Higher resolution is possibly a bigger step forward.


I predict they will be at mid-LCD range prices in 2-3 years which will be just about the EOL for my current LCD panel.

More resolution is not a more important feature than better colour representation. Given that the most common maximum home media format is going to be 1080p for a long time yet I would shoot for better image quality at current resolution rather than upscaling the image.

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  Reply # 787400 26-Mar-2013 19:03
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I want more pixels on the screen, 1080 media is fine, but the screendoor look of a 50" tv at a couple of meters away is not ok.

That, and more frames in the source material. Colours are so stuffed up in most source material in anycase that the TV can hardly make it worse. Black levels I am ok with LCD ones except when there is an inconsistancy in the grey that is black, if it is uniform it doesnt bother me, but hotspotting at the corners does.

Till I see one in the flesh I cant really judge it, because I have seen some plasmas that people were raving about which had shocking visible dithering and visible refresh that made it look like a shoddy DLP projector with a rainbow type effect, yet others were only banging on about its black levels.




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