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  #800652 17-Apr-2013 07:22
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ushare: Ok so i got it working :D i was hoping to plug in another hdmi for the projector too in clone mode. Is this fine? I just downloaded a windows 8 driver which is not in the windows 7 section. This seems to have fixed my problem.



I am yet to test any video. So i am connected to the tv at 1920x720 i think. The edges were going out od the tv so i used the intel graphics options to fit it all on screen..

It is nowhere near as clear as a monitor. Should i be worried? Like the icon names and stuff are just not clear :(

I hope i am making some sense


If you were loosing the edges you usually have to tell the tv it's a pc that's plugged in or overscan chops the edges off. On our samsung I name the inputs, tell it hdmi one is a pc and it then displays the whole picture nice and sharp.

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  #800753 17-Apr-2013 10:20
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The thing is, i own a 3-4 year old panasonic 32" hd ready tv. There is no over scan feature on the tv that i can find. Checked through the whole menu :(

There is vga input on the tv, which i used to use when i had a pc plugged in. That worked great and was crystal clear.

I hvae read through the whole manual too- again, nothing! :(

Is there anything else i can do? Apparatly there is a special secret/service menu that you can access, but i dont know how. :(

 
 
 
 


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  #800786 17-Apr-2013 10:50
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ushare: The thing is, i own a 3-4 year old panasonic 32" hd ready tv. There is no over scan feature on the tv that i can find. Checked through the whole menu :(

There is vga input on the tv, which i used to use when i had a pc plugged in. That worked great and was crystal clear.

I hvae read through the whole manual too- again, nothing! :(

Is there anything else i can do? Apparatly there is a special secret/service menu that you can access, but i dont know how. :(


I have not had good experiences with the image quality of HDMI out on PCs and usually connect to the blue VGA connector on my tv - however, my tv is quite old so things may be better now. As an experiment you might try an HDMI to VGA or Thunderbolt to VGA connector to see if that works.




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  #800837 17-Apr-2013 11:27
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I have not had good experiences with the image quality of HDMI out on PCs and usually connect to the blue VGA connector on my tv - however, my tv is quite old so things may be better now. As an experiment you might try an HDMI to VGA or Thunderbolt to VGA connector to see if that works.


???? Analogue input giving a better picture than digital ????

I suspect you've had the same problem with overscan. Basically by default the TV crops the image slightly and blows the picture up. See

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-overscan-and-why-all-tvs-do-it/

For an explanation. BUT - most TV's have an Input that can be used that doesn't overscan or a way to disable it for an input. As I said on my samsung one of the HDMI's can be labelled as PC and it disables overscan. On others they sometime have one port labels HDMI/DVI which usually means it can have overscan disabled.

Once you have overscan off your TV will display full 1920x1080 PERFECTLY with no chance of ghosting etc associated with analogue inputs.


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  #800845 17-Apr-2013 11:38
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mobiusnz:
 
I have not had good experiences with the image quality of HDMI out on PCs and usually connect to the blue VGA connector on my tv - however, my tv is quite old so things may be better now. As an experiment you might try an HDMI to VGA or Thunderbolt to VGA connector to see if that works.

Once you have overscan off your TV will display full 1920x1080 PERFECTLY with no chance of ghosting etc associated with analogue inputs.

Absolutely!  My Panasonic Plasma had the same issue until I found out how to disable the Overscan.  It was all in the manual, but I just needed to find out where.





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  #800867 17-Apr-2013 12:14
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I have looked everywhere in the manual, cant find anything about overscan :(

I cant find it anywhere in the menu, do you think it will be in the special service menu?

Mine is an HD ready tv if that helps.

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  #800897 17-Apr-2013 12:35
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ushare: I have looked everywhere in the manual, cant find anything about overscan :(

I cant find it anywhere in the menu, do you think it will be in the special service menu?

Mine is an HD ready tv if that helps.

Here's what mine says:
16:9 Overscan
Selects the screen area displaying the image [Off] / [On]
[On]:
Enlarges the image to hide the edge of the image.
[Off]:
Displays the image in the original size.
? Set to [On] if noise is generated on the edge of the screen.
? This function is available when aspect is set to [16:9].
? This function can be memorised separately for SD (Standard definition) and HD
(High definition) signals.
? Not valid on PC mode or VIERA Connect

This is under "Advanced Settings".  I wouldn't expect to see it in the special service menu as it needs to be accessible by the user.





 
 
 
 


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  #800899 17-Apr-2013 12:37
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cant find a 16:9 overscan option :(

Does intel hd 4000 drivers have this feature? i have read some drivers do.

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  #800903 17-Apr-2013 12:44
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Been looking at these wondering if it would be suitable for everyday general computing with the only possible stressful application is converting AVI files to MP4

Love to get rid of my desktop tower

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  #800905 17-Apr-2013 12:46
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Ok, here's how it works on my 50" Panasonic. On the remote select the AV input that you require (HDMI1?), then push the menu button, select "setup", then select "other settings", then you will see "picture overscan" - select "off". Hope this helps 

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  #800908 17-Apr-2013 12:47
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ushare: cant find a 16:9 overscan option :(

Does intel hd 4000 drivers have this feature? i have read some drivers do.

With the Nvidia driver there are some settings you can tweak:

Use these settings if the display overscans (enlarges) the desktop resulting in portion of the desktop, such as the taskbar, being off-screen.


I haven't tried this setting because my TV handles it.  If you can't get a satisfactory result, it may be time to upgrade your TV.  32" are cheap as chips now.





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  #800986 17-Apr-2013 13:55
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ushare: I have looked everywhere in the manual, cant find anything about overscan :(

I cant find it anywhere in the menu, do you think it will be in the special service menu?

Mine is an HD ready tv if that helps.


I may be wrong, but I think on some of the older Panasonics the picture overscan option disappears from the setup menu depending on how you set the picture aspect ratio.  You might try some other aspect ratio setting (say 16:9) then check the menu again.




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  #801030 17-Apr-2013 14:37
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I would love to see an AMD APU system built in a similar way as that should be much cheaper and would function great as a hidden media system.

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  #802486 19-Apr-2013 19:32
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Having been excited about these little devices when they were first announced and then buying a rPi! Reading this thread got me going again so I have ordered a i3 unit with the ethernet port.

I bought 4gb Kingston RAM to go in it, but then remembered my wifes laptop has 8gb in it. So I will probably put the 4gb stick in there and the 8gb (2x4) in the NUC.

60Gb SSD as well will see me with enough space and I will prob run win8 Pro on it.

I pick it all up Monday from PBTech Auckland city.




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  #802584 19-Apr-2013 23:42
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Should all tvs have this overscan feature? It seems my tv doesnt :(

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