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  Reply # 849284 4-Jul-2013 14:57
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For those that make use of Vudu via a VPN or Slingshot global-mode:

Vudu offers the following service (Have not made use of it yet though). But it looks interesting.

Disc to Digital: Convert your DVD's at Home. Store your movies in the cloud

Playback your movies on any Vudu enabled device.

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  Reply # 849286 4-Jul-2013 14:58
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networkn: 
I really find this kind of attitude quite strange. So you consider yourself exempt from rules you don't agree with? 


Absolutely. People have an obligation to ignore 'stupid' laws.

This is a good and healthy attitude. 

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  Reply # 849288 4-Jul-2013 15:01
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hashbrown:
freitasm: It doesn't matter, still not legal in New Zealand to format shift video, only audio CDs.


And yet you haven't locked this thread or warned any users about discussing ways of breaking that law.

Where is the line on a discussion like this?



I was wondering the same thing, and there have been similar discussions in the past which are allowed to promote 'cracking' . 

As far as I understand, this whole thread breaches the FUG. 

Why is it allowed to continue (Out of curiosity)? 


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  Reply # 849290 4-Jul-2013 15:08
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surfisup1000:
hashbrown:
freitasm: It doesn't matter, still not legal in New Zealand to format shift video, only audio CDs.


And yet you haven't locked this thread or warned any users about discussing ways of breaking that law.

Where is the line on a discussion like this?



I was wondering the same thing, and there have been similar discussions in the past which are allowed to promote 'cracking' . 

As far as I understand, this whole thread breaches the FUG. 

Why is it allowed to continue (Out of curiosity)? 



Realisticly video ripping software is not illegal it's what you do with it that (could) be.

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  Reply # 849307 4-Jul-2013 16:02
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Guns don't kill people...

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  Reply # 849348 4-Jul-2013 16:35
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Lazarui:
surfisup1000:
hashbrown:
freitasm: It doesn't matter, still not legal in New Zealand to format shift video, only audio CDs.


And yet you haven't locked this thread or warned any users about discussing ways of breaking that law.

Where is the line on a discussion like this?



I was wondering the same thing, and there have been similar discussions in the past which are allowed to promote 'cracking' . 

As far as I understand, this whole thread breaches the FUG. 

Why is it allowed to continue (Out of curiosity)? 



Realisticly video ripping software is not illegal it's what you do with it that (could) be.


Yes, but what is being specifically discussed is specifically illegal. The question wasn't what the OP could use to rip their wedding video, it was referring to storing their legally purchased DVD movies on their media server.

Discussing the legal and moral wheretofores of the subject are fair enough, but giving instruction on how to break the law, now everyone is aware that it is against the law & why, is probably a no-no.

Personally I think it is a dumb law, and is probably in the same basket as CD ripping was 5 years ago when even the local head of Sony quite happily admitted to ripping CDs to MP3 and especially Minidisc.
Sure, distributing ripped DVD/BluRay images should be illegal, but ripping for personal use in this sort of circumstance is perfectly reasonable IMO.

(note: IANAMOAL)
(note to note: I Am Not A Mod Or A Lawyer)

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  Reply # 849359 4-Jul-2013 16:57
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networkn: 

I really find this kind of attitude quite strange. So you consider yourself exempt from rules you don't agree with? 


Of course regularly, if the rules are idiotic and antiquated.

Format shifting video on dvd/blueray that you own to digital only for playback in your own home is right up there with jay walking imo.

Now if you're ripping media and distributing via torrent or filesharing to third parties that's another story.....

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  Reply # 849404 4-Jul-2013 20:39
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networkn:

I really find this kind of attitude quite strange. So you consider yourself exempt from rules you don't agree with? 



Absolutely!

Thomas Jefferson put it very well - "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

I can think of a variety of laws that have been passed that I would be prepared to go to jail rather than comply with - the Nuremburg Laws being a prominent example.

You need to weigh up whether a law makes sense, whether a law is morally objectionable, what the probability of being caught is and what the penalties are if caught. Then, as an adult, make your own decision.

For instance, can you say that you have never (ever, ever, ever) waited for the green man before crossing an empty street, read an "adult" magazine such as Playboy before you were 18, or transferred a song to an mp3 player (back before they tweaked the copyright law to make it legal, before that it was just as illegal as format shifting video)?

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