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  # 1005047 13-Mar-2014 15:50
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jonathan18:
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Jaxson: ... Outright I need to be clear that I'm not saying they're amazing, but I'd rate them about as much as I rate the golfball sized speakers ...


Golfball-sized speakers sound terrible - why are you comparing sound quality with them?
If you absolutely must use in-wall or in-ceiling speakers be prepared to spend several thousand dollars just to get "adequate" sound.
For the same amount of money you could get good free-standing speakers or even decent wall-mount speakers mounted above child level.


I reckon that no-one should never assume that another person has the same priorities, critiera, budget etc (even ears!) as you! For many (and WAF has been mentioned, as have children), the clean look (including the lack of cables) is clearly of more importance than the sound compromises of in-wall speakers.

It reminds me of a similar thread a few years' back on audioenz, where it was totally apparent that some (ie, the child-less participants!) just didn't get the grim possibilities that can eventuate from having AV equipment at a child-friendly level, and therefore the compromises one has (logically, in my mind) to make to avoid these.


Completely agree with this, and similar comments by smac, reven and co above, and I'll just leave it at that.

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  # 1005065 13-Mar-2014 16:28
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jonathan18: I reckon that no-one should never assume that another person has the same priorities, critiera, budget etc (even ears!) as you! For many (and WAF has been mentioned, as have children), the clean look (including the lack of cables) is clearly of more importance than the sound compromises of in-wall speakers.

It reminds me of a similar thread a few years' back on audioenz, where it was totally apparent that some (ie, the child-less participants!) just didn't get the grim possibilities that can eventuate from having AV equipment at a child-friendly level, and therefore the compromises one has (logically, in my mind) to make to avoid these.

I don't make any assumptions about priorities - I am merely stating a personal preference for good sound over a clean look.
We have three very active children living in our house aged 9, 7, and 12 months. Our in-room mid-range (stereo) HiFi is no hazard to them.




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I installed these fronts recently for a customer and these rears in ceiling - I was really surprised how well they sounded bearing in mind I have the Kef Q series at home with Q900 floorstanders in front.

Another (albeit pricier) option perhaps.

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  # 1005151 13-Mar-2014 19:46
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I'm looking at Focus choral 700 for the front three but the domestic veto has been used on the subject of rear speakersas the are ugly apparently.

So I'm looking at ceiling rears in the lowered ceiling of a bay window which is behind the sofa. Sound won't be as good but pretty much anything I figure behind me is better from 5.1 sound through 3 front speakers alone...

Lurking with interest..

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Lol I know someone who simply placed upturned buckets over his inceiling mount speakers to provide a rear cavity. Just thought I'd mention that.

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  # 1005173 13-Mar-2014 20:21
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Jaxson: ... Outright I need to be clear that I'm not saying they're amazing, but I'd rate them about as much as I rate the golfball sized speakers ...


Golfball-sized speakers sound terrible - why are you comparing sound quality with them?
If you absolutely must use in-wall or in-ceiling speakers be prepared to spend several thousand dollars just to get "adequate" sound.
For the same amount of money you could get good free-standing speakers or even decent wall-mount speakers mounted above child level.



I would disagree just a little . You can get good sounding systems if you buy intelligently. Check reviews etc.    

I have boston acoustics cube speakers in the corners of my office. It sounds wicked with both music/5.1 tracks. The subwoofer is able to put out just enough bass to trick the listener that the corner speakers are putting out bass. 

Cost around $800 from jbhifi on their cost sale.  Perfect for my office but prob not for  a large space. 




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  # 1005840 14-Mar-2014 20:02
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I bought of pair of these from amazon for rears. They look and sound nice.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ISZEDA?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

I put plastic elastic shower caps over the backs to stop dust getting in (our ceiling is very dusty).




 
 
 
 


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At times, being in the USA would be cool ... 

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  # 1017729 3-Apr-2014 10:51
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I've noticed many people with in-wall speakers also have free-standing speakers or additional speakers attached to the walls or ceiling. The catch is that in-wall speakers recommend themselves by their presence rather than their performance. So people see the speakers installed in cavities and think they'd be a good option. The problem is that in-wall speakers don't get removed if they're terrible, they just don't get used very much.


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  # 1017744 3-Apr-2014 11:08
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Yeah I wouldn't want them as my Fronts I have hi-fi speakers on stands at the front but happy with the in ceiling ones as surround for movies.




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