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  Reply # 1138049 26-Sep-2014 10:34
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The ST50 will be very hard to match, sadly.
The UT50 isn't a patch on it, the lack of a filter, the lower quality of motion handling and poor contrast meant it was never the big hit that the ST was.
The TH-42AS700 or the LG 42LB6700 would be the two best 42" TV's I can think of... but they're LED's, not plasmas.


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  Reply # 1138063 26-Sep-2014 10:40
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RUKI: That is unfortunate but very common situation with kids playing and acidently throwing gaming console into the screen.
Kids - they rarely miss :-(

May I give an advice to parents:
a) - suggest kids using a strap - similar to those popular with old days mobile phones - so that when kids accidently loose the grip of a gaming pad - it will not fly into the screen
b) - if it has already happened - just PM me - I will thankfully collect broken TV from you - it is hard to discard rubbish that size and I am actually paying to get rid of it after I am taking few parts of interest from inside.
Cheers


I second this, my mother used to use a strap with us. We never made the same mistake twice!


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  Reply # 1138078 26-Sep-2014 11:00
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How far from the ground was it?
Hanging the gaming TV above 1.5m avoids most of the risk with flying devices. Even with adults standing up they're far less likely to hit it than a TV sitting on a low console unit. Anything at 1m or so it is far too easy to hit even on a downward arc. I can see the highest mark on the wall here is at 1.3m.



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  Reply # 1138125 26-Sep-2014 11:33
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Yes down lowish about 0.75 m. The plasma has a glass screen which doesn't help. Our other LCS is plastic and has had a few knocks but doesn't break as easily. For the time being I'm getting a cheap Panasonic LED as mentioned above (but the version down 400 on special for only $691). The insurance company may decide to fix the plasma but I doubt it. 

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  Reply # 1138248 26-Sep-2014 13:53
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Hammerer: How far from the ground was it?
Hanging the gaming TV above 1.5m avoids most of the risk with flying devices. Even with adults standing up they're far less likely to hit it than a TV sitting on a low console unit. Anything at 1m or so it is far too easy to hit even on a downward arc. I can see the highest mark on the wall here is at 1.3m.

Before I attached my TV to the wall permanently I've done some research on ergonomics and what are the most comfortable view angles, distance (formula - TV size vs distnce etc) 
Suggest that 1.5 m heigh is way too high and would not be comfortable for viewing - you may end up with the neck pain - similar to watching computer screen all day at work if it is way too high.




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  Reply # 1138253 26-Sep-2014 14:07
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Yes I always try to put the TV at eye level when sitting on a couch.

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  Reply # 1138273 26-Sep-2014 14:38
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We had a similar issue where my son (I think) managed to put 3 small chips (while they are small I'd say it took a fair bit of force with the corner of something hard, probably metal, to do) on the screen of my st50, so we moved it up onto the wall. I'd say it's about 1.5m up and while it seemed somewhat high at first it's been absolutely fine since, no neck strain or anything - you don't have to move your head much to look up a few degrees when sitting on the couch.

More importantly no more chips, cracks or grubby finger prints!

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  Reply # 1138298 26-Sep-2014 15:14
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For the time being I'm getting a cheap Panasonic LED as mentioned above (but the version down 400 on special for only $691).

 

 

The slightly more expensive 42" A410 is the same TV but has an IPS panel. An IPS panel has better colours and viewing angles but worse black levels (except on some expensive models). The AS700's higher price tag is because it should have a 100Hz panel and backlight blinking versus the 50Hz panel and 100Hz backlight blinking on the A400 and A410. Some people hate 100Hz panels but the "soap opera effect" should bother fewer people than it did in the past.

 

 

If you have Flybuys you can get the 42 A400 through that.

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Reply # 1138306 26-Sep-2014 15:26
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sidefx: We had a similar issue where my son (I think) managed to put 3 small chips (while they are small I'd say it took a fair bit of force with the corner of something hard, probably metal, to do) on the screen of my st50, so we moved it up onto the wall. I'd say it's about 1.5m up and while it seemed somewhat high at first it's been absolutely fine since, no neck strain or anything - you don't have to move your head much to look up a few degrees when sitting on the couch.

More importantly no more chips, cracks or grubby finger prints!

Being at dentist recently - he put TV on a ceiling - just above the chair - I did not ask at the time why as I though it was for the client's pleasurable viewing, but now after reading this post I am wondering - perhaps someone of his clients thrown something at the previous TV set? laughing Hard to reach on the ceiling for sure..




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  Reply # 1138310 26-Sep-2014 15:36
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Just few links from the quick search about positioning TV:
http://www.cnet.com/news/how-high-should-i-put-my-tv-morrisons-mailbag/
https://www.thinkvp.com/mountu/?catid=11
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/Tv-viewing-distance.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance

The other thing I found with the gib board walls is that studs could be way wider than the out of the shelf TV fixtures, so ended up with a custom made aluminum rails - long enough to be screwed to the studs.





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  Reply # 1138358 26-Sep-2014 16:22
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RUKI:
Hammerer: How far from the ground was it?
Hanging the gaming TV above 1.5m avoids most of the risk with flying devices. Even with adults standing up they're far less likely to hit it than a TV sitting on a low console unit. Anything at 1m or so it is far too easy to hit even on a downward arc. I can see the highest mark on the wall here is at 1.3m.

Before I attached my TV to the wall permanently I've done some research on ergonomics and what are the most comfortable view angles, distance (formula - TV size vs distnce etc) 
Suggest that 1.5 m heigh is way too high and would not be comfortable for viewing - you may end up with the neck pain - similar to watching computer screen all day at work if it is way too high.


No, it's not much of a problem at all. laughing

I'll explain why.

Typical issues that gamers/TV viewers might have:

 

  • the head is not upright or properly supported.
  • the eye line is not at right angles to the screen surface - vertically or laterally.
  • regular breaks are not taken at least every hour.
  • viewing for extended periods of time.
In our situation the screen is correctly angled about 10 degrees from horizontal and the games are only playable from the couch 2m directly in front of the screen - other furniture is under the TV. The couch, headrest and cushions provide support for the body and head.

People are far more likely to have problems working at workstations. The shorter distances increase the severity of the issues I mentioned, which you are sure to be aware of if you've researched the ergonomics. At 50 cm from a screen it only takes a vertical change of a few cms to get a 10 degreee angle which means that even viewing an average 20 inch screen on a desk will usually create greater angles than I'm dealing with on the gaming TV. Then you have the major dependencies of chair and work surface height (too high or too low). The latter affects keyboard and/or mouse height. Plus many people have their mouse too lateral to their body or at difficult angles. Others don't know how to touch type so they have to continually drop their head down to look at the keyboard. And so on.

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  Reply # 1143317 29-Sep-2014 10:01
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Hammerer: ..... The couch, headrest and cushions provide support for the body and head....

You are absolutely right
To stay in topic of "suggestions for the new TV" - wonder if any vendors here watching the thread? Surely if they are smart enough their marketing campains should include free stuff like cushions and for the buyers of expensive TV (did you see that 64-inch monster?) surely they can throw in the couch with a headrest or a lazyboy. But watch for the cunning vendors who throw in a free gaming console whith a controller which can easily be thrown into the screen (so that you may pay them a second visit any time soon for another TV), and always ask for the wrist strap... wink Samsung had campaign in 2010 giving away free XBOX with the game included .... "tennis"!. Now I think I know why....




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  Reply # 1143367 29-Sep-2014 10:59
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myopinion: Yes down lowish about 0.75 m. The plasma has a glass screen which doesn't help. Our other LCS is plastic and has had a few knocks but doesn't break as easily. For the time being I'm getting a cheap Panasonic LED as mentioned above (but the version down 400 on special for only $691). The insurance company may decide to fix the plasma but I doubt it. 


If you haven't made your purchase yet I'm happy to take $650 for the Plasma. I'm based in Auckland though not sure where you are.

Would be a bit more sturdy than the LCD panel.

If interested let me know :)

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