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Topic # 157699 10-Dec-2014 06:53
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Ok, so I started a thread asking about the PSB M4U 2 Noise Cancelling headphones, as per below I tried some headphones out then saw the Polk units on Mighty Ape on special, so I figured at worst I would hate them and onsell them losing maybe $80 or so as the retail is $499 and I got them for $380 so I figured I could likely sell for around $300, anyway below is copies from the PSB thread, I will post updates over the next few days of what I notice of these headphones.

Please note that I have read that when using these with an amp you have to be careful to not overdrive them as they run an internal amp as well.

Mighty Ape have the Polk units for a pretty decent price, I figure i'll try the and if they don't suit me sell them on at get the PSB, which I actually really liked, i tried the Bose and they were super comfortable but i didn't feel the sound quality was as good as the PSB's.

Time will tell which i like best.

Btw only 2 pairs of the Polk at $120 off at mighty Ape.


 

I have tried the QC25 and the PSB's and the PSB's sounded so much better than the QC25 so I crossed the Bose units off my list straight away.

I have been reading some reviews on the Polk units, and some people say you can't use an amp, while others say you can by have to be careful not to over drive the headphones, which I thought would be the case regardless! Anyone able to comment on this? I usually use my Fiio E11 to give a little more grunt to my Beats solo (also use the EQ to remove some of the bass!

Hopefully the Polk's arrive tomorrow and I can spend the day playing with them.


Ok, so the Polk Ultrafocus 8000 arrived to work yesterday, and I have to say, I ordered these from Mighty Ape at 4:10 on Friday and they dispatched them the same day, that is impressive, and others have posted similar stories on here, so if you can get an item from Mighty Ape then don't hesitate.

After carefully unpacking the headphones, and opening the Beats like box, with a couple of boxes in the box I was immediately impressed with the carry case that has a hook to attach to your bag, which is good as it is quite big.

Had a quick look at the instructions to work out where the batteries go and was away.

I first used them with my Iphone, the controls are a little hard to use at first as they take some force to press, but it isn't too bad as they are comfortable to get to. My initial impression of their performance was that they were OK, sound was clear and all in the right proportions. The noise cancelling when the music is quite was OK however it seemed to amplify the keyboard clicks! with music on worked well, I will try the mute button, which is supposed to amplify the outside world a bit, the boss may think I am rude for not removing the headphones, but if I tell her it is in the name of Geekdom she should be OK!

Anyway now to the point where the Wow happens, I connected to my Fiio E11 amp and the sound is f#$king epic! I mean the snare drum sends shivers down my spine, the bass without being overpowering and "bassy" is clear and punchy. I have only tested these on Elton John, as that is what is on my current play list, later on I'll rock some Metallica, Bowie, Greenday and Cat Stevens and post my thoughts. I'll also do a full review with my unboxing photos.

Needless to say I don't think I'll be selling these to get the PSB's!

So day 2, and I only got a few hours of listening in before having to rush out to an urgent onsite meeting yesterday.

I have just put Cat Stevens - Father and Son on and the vocals are chilling! the depth and clarity are just amazing, I am not really a sound geek, but I could easily close my eyes and get lost in the music with these headphones, I never imagines that a set of headphones could make such a difference in the experience. I just want to listen to more and more music, of all types.

Time for some more Elton maybe start with Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters, Don't Go breaking my heart and we'll see where the shuffle takes us.

I do wonder if the experience with the PSB's would be as rich and colourful, I guess I'll never really know!

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  Reply # 1192567 10-Dec-2014 06:56
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One point that I should cover is that these are heavy, but I find that I forget about the weight when listening, I also find them very comfortable contrary to many reviews.

Comfort wise they are not in the same league as the Bose QC25, they are feather light and you don't even know you are wearing them, but when I tried them out the sound was really below par, and I have been listening to Beats Solo HD!

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  Reply # 1192601 10-Dec-2014 08:46
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Oh hey, you went with the Polks!

What did I tell you? Great sound those cans, like actually good, not just 'good for ANC headphones' good. I've not heard the PSB's, but every opinion I've seen from people who have listened to both is that the Polk comfortably outclasses the PSB for SQ.

I'm pleased you're not finding comfort an issue, that was my only reservation recommending those to you since you'd specifically mentioned comfort (particularly when the Bose are part of the comparison, because those are out of this world comfortable). I didn't find them problematic, but then comfort and fit where headphones are concerned is a very personal thing indeed.




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  Reply # 1192611 10-Dec-2014 09:00
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Yes, on price initially, but I am glad I did.

I'd love to compare to the PSB's properly but $880 worth of headphones is out of the question!

Especially just for comparison sake.

And thank you for the reccomendation.



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  Reply # 1195374 11-Dec-2014 06:45
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Ok so day 3 and I leant the Polk's to a workmate and have my Beats back on for the morning.

This is telling! The Beats are muddy and inaccurate by comparison, I am missing the Polk's but the comparison is good for justifying a $200 pair of headphones compared to a $500 pair.

To be honest this sort of comparison can only be done by spending a significant amount of time listening.

If I could get someone to buy a week old pair of PSB's for $400 or a 2 week old pair of Polk for $300 (which ever one I chose not to keep) I'd run that comparison

It would be worth it to loose $100 over to be sure I have the best headphones I could!

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  Reply # 1195401 11-Dec-2014 09:07
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Be careful, you are skirting the edge of the abyss of audiophiledom. Once you start wanting to hear everything and start to be less concerned about money it becomes quite easy to spend large sums over time chasing the best headphone. This is coming from someone who knows this very well indeed.




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  Reply # 1195520 11-Dec-2014 12:21
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NZtechfreak: Be careful, you are skirting the edge of the abyss of audiophiledom. Once you start wanting to hear everything and start to be less concerned about money it becomes quite easy to spend large sums over time chasing the best headphone. This is coming from someone who knows this very well indeed.


Too late! I have been playing with an SQ set up in my cars for the last 15 years! The amount I have spent on that is not something I will admit publicly!

My current set up involves an Alpine type-X 3 way set and 150wrms per channel! The car is just such a pig of an environment to get right! My last set was running 8 channels thru a PXA-H701

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  Reply # 1195554 11-Dec-2014 13:31
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NZtechfreak: Be careful, you are skirting the edge of the abyss of audiophiledom. Once you start wanting to hear everything and start to be less concerned about money it becomes quite easy to spend large sums over time chasing the best headphone. This is coming from someone who knows this very well indeed.


HAHA yah it's a horrible thing, you start with 1 thinking they are the end game, then you hear amplification is worth considering, then it's a DAC, then it's better HP's and better amp and soon enough you are living under a bridge begging people not for money, but a way to recharge your setup whilst muttering "my precious".




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  Reply # 1198208 16-Dec-2014 07:15
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Well one week in and I am starting to be more critical of the headphones, I had thought I was hearing a bit of a rattle and the sound was a little muddy but after my amp battery died this morning running these directly off my laptop there is not rattle sound and the sound quality has improved. It may be time for a new amp. I have my eye on a Fiio E02i but have yet to do any research on my options.

Speaking of battery, I turned these off over the weekend only to come back from the weekend to flat batteries, I did notice that when the headphones are turned off the LED is still on, I wouldn't have thought the batteries would drain off that.

Anyway I have put some rechargables in and will see how long they last. I basically had the headphones on all day yesterday, probably 6 hours in total, enough to run the battery in the E11 run out!



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  Reply # 1198840 17-Dec-2014 08:50
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Well just over a week and I have discovered a fault with my headphones, now mighty ape are well known for exceptional service and delivery, I can now review their returns process.

Anyway the problem is that the headphones never turn off completely.

The amp and noise cancelling appear to turn off but they still drain the battery, and quite quickly, I have read a review where they had the same issue and it was fixed by Polk quite quickly.

We'll see how this goes as I don't want to be without them for too long!

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  Reply # 1198847 17-Dec-2014 09:08
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Bugger, I didn't have that when I had mine and battery life was pretty great. Hoping you have a swift turnaround.




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  Reply # 1208277 5-Jan-2015 06:54
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Well I decided to return these after xmas, I didn't want them floating around the courier depot for a week or 2.

anyway I had these at home and gave them to my partner to use as she likes to play random youtube videos quite loud while I am watching TV.

My GF is not a tech person, nor does she like gadgets but she commented on how amazing the headphones were and that she could now see why you'd spend more than $50 on a pair, she doesn't know how much they actually cost but it was interesting that someone with no interest in SQ was quite impressed with the headphones. She even began to use the controls on the side!

So I am sending them back today so I have to use my Beats for a little bit, hopefully not for too long otherwise I might have to get some PSB's to try out!



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  Reply # 1212897 13-Jan-2015 07:01
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Ok, so I returned my headphones on 5th Jan, they arrived back at Mighty Ape the same day and I had an e-mail from them asking for more details on the fault.

We communicated back and forth over a couple of days as the fault is really not obvious unless you use the headphones for a few weeks! Anyway they initially were unable to replicate the fault so I gave them more details and a link to a forum post that explained the issue in some detail. YEsterday they confirmed they would be replacing the headphones and by yesterday afternoon they had arrived at work!

Man am I glad I don't have to listen to those muddy Beats any longer!

This new set the power button definately powers off, in fact you have to push it all the way over to power them on, which means no more draining batteries!

All in all I am still really happy with Mighty Ape, and would definitely buy a large item from them again....and again, and again!



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  Reply # 1227383 2-Feb-2015 07:07
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Well I am on the same batteries since the headphones were replaced under warranty. Again Mighty Ape were awesome to deal with, and the headphones still sound amazing!



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  Reply # 1241545 18-Feb-2015 12:46
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Well I am now on my second set of batteries so they are outlasting the 40 hours suggested by a good deal, I use them for 4-5 hours a day most week days.

Wish the batteries for the amp lasted that long!



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  Reply # 1640169 25-Sep-2016 11:43
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Well these have developed a fault and the iPhone controls have stopped working.

Guess we'll see how lomg a $500 set of headphones should last according to the CGA.

Unfortunately Mighty Ape no longer stock these so it may be a repair:(

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