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Topic # 165784 20-Feb-2015 15:38
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Hi Guys,

Just checking if anyone is using a Linux Disto on their Raspberry Pi successfully to get online web services such as TVNZonDemand and TV3, Sky GO etc?

I'm curious to know if it's possible to run these instead of the need for a whole traditional PC.

Thanks in advance for any comments.
- Jay

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  Reply # 1243161 20-Feb-2015 16:03
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I don't think there is anyway to make this work... the rpi is more than capable, pipelight/flash (netflix uses html5 in chrome) works ok on x86

I broke down a got a chrome cast in the end




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  Reply # 1243166 20-Feb-2015 16:19
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Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1243203 20-Feb-2015 17:21
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ActiveMatrix: Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.


Netflix needs a chrome DRM plugin (its called EME put basically a binary plug in) that is not compiled for ARM

And all the others need flash that dosnt have an ARM build ethier

The situation is really anoying but you either need an android/samsung device, ios or x86 win/linux, which is why chromecast/amazon fire are so popular as they are low power/profile devices that actually work

The situation *may* change if mozilla ever manages to get some DRM they can live with

 

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/




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  Reply # 1243204 20-Feb-2015 17:23
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The problem as I understand it is that there is no Flash for the RaspberryPi

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  Reply # 1246254 25-Feb-2015 11:35
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In theory it should be possible to do this. There are a large number of XBMC/Kodi add-ons that pull flash content off various Video On Demand sites and these work fine on the Pi [as long as you can get around whatever geoblocking might be in place]. However there's currently nothing that works with any of the NZ providers. There is an old add-on for NZ TV, but it's broken. Last time I looked at TVNZ on demand they had implemented some brightcove DRM BS that made accessing the video stream tricky, but if someone was prepared to put the effort in, I expect it could be made to work.

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  Reply # 1246264 25-Feb-2015 11:46
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Killerkiwi2005:
ActiveMatrix: Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.


Netflix needs a chrome DRM plugin (its called EME put basically a binary plug in) that is not compiled for ARM


My ARM Chromebook plays Netflix just fine so clearly Google has a build for ARM.



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  Reply # 1246275 25-Feb-2015 12:00
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deadlyllama:
Killerkiwi2005:
ActiveMatrix: Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.


Netflix needs a chrome DRM plugin (its called EME put basically a binary plug in) that is not compiled for ARM


My ARM Chromebook plays Netflix just fine so clearly Google has a build for ARM.


That's very interesting! - Can you watch TVNZ on Demand with your Chrome Book too?

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  Reply # 1246278 25-Feb-2015 12:04
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ActiveMatrix:
deadlyllama:
Killerkiwi2005:
ActiveMatrix: Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.


Netflix needs a chrome DRM plugin (its called EME put basically a binary plug in) that is not compiled for ARM


My ARM Chromebook plays Netflix just fine so clearly Google has a build for ARM.


That's very interesting! - Can you watch TVNZ on Demand with your Chrome Book too?


While we are talking about Google Chromebooks - TVNZ On Demand will not play if you use pepperflash in Chromium/Chrome. This is because of the DRM that TVNZ insist on using. If you can get your browser to play TVNZ On Demand then I guess you could use the Chromecast - but I have not heard any reports that this works.

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  Reply # 1246377 25-Feb-2015 13:35
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Bananabob:
ActiveMatrix:
deadlyllama:
Killerkiwi2005:
ActiveMatrix: Thanks for the reply - Given you can run Linux on the Pi, I would have thought a web browser would have been sufficient if it had HTML5 or maybe Flash.


Netflix needs a chrome DRM plugin (its called EME put basically a binary plug in) that is not compiled for ARM


My ARM Chromebook plays Netflix just fine so clearly Google has a build for ARM.


That's very interesting! - Can you watch TVNZ on Demand with your Chrome Book too?


While we are talking about Google Chromebooks - TVNZ On Demand will not play if you use pepperflash in Chromium/Chrome. This is because of the DRM that TVNZ insist on using. If you can get your browser to play TVNZ On Demand then I guess you could use the Chromecast - but I have not heard any reports that this works.

It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.

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  Reply # 1246379 25-Feb-2015 13:37
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It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.


Then why does TV3 play perfectly? - Maybe it  is the type of DRM that TVNZ is using

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  Reply # 1246389 25-Feb-2015 13:47
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Bananabob:
 
It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.


Then why does TV3 play perfectly? - Maybe it  is the type of DRM that TVNZ is using

Because each media company has a min DRM standard to show x y z. Currently tv3 meets this but I would bet that if / went they get new "must watch" TV show, they will have to up grade their system to stream it.

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  Reply # 1246408 25-Feb-2015 14:03
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bagheera:
Bananabob:
 
It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.


Then why does TV3 play perfectly? - Maybe it  is the type of DRM that TVNZ is using

Because each media company has a min DRM standard to show x y z. Currently tv3 meets this but I would bet that if / went they get new "must watch" TV show, they will have to up grade their system to stream it.


So my next (rhetorical) question must be - Why hasn't Google met this standard in pepperflash?

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  Reply # 1246412 25-Feb-2015 14:14
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Bananabob:
bagheera:
Bananabob:
 
It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.


Then why does TV3 play perfectly? - Maybe it  is the type of DRM that TVNZ is using

Because each media company has a min DRM standard to show x y z. Currently tv3 meets this but I would bet that if / went they get new "must watch" TV show, they will have to up grade their system to stream it.


So my next (rhetorical) question must be - Why hasn't Google met this standard in pepperflash?

Because you are forgetting the media companies motto "make it hard for the end user to view it and complain about piracy because people give up a pirate it"

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  Reply # 1246414 25-Feb-2015 14:17
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bagheera:
Bananabob:
bagheera:
Bananabob:
 
It not tvnz that insist on hard to use DRM, it is the media companies that lease the rights to tvnz that insist on this. Tvnz can either have no online streaming or jump to whatever the latest trouble DRM media companies want.


Then why does TV3 play perfectly? - Maybe it  is the type of DRM that TVNZ is using

Because each media company has a min DRM standard to show x y z. Currently tv3 meets this but I would bet that if / went they get new "must watch" TV show, they will have to up grade their system to stream it.


So my next (rhetorical) question must be - Why hasn't Google met this standard in pepperflash?

Because you are forgetting the media companies motto "make it hard for the end user to view it and complain about piracy because people give up a pirate it"


I may yet raise the skull and crossbones

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  Reply # 1260953 17-Mar-2015 12:11
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Killerkiwi2005: I don't think there is anyway to make this work... the rpi is more than capable, pipelight/flash (netflix uses html5 in chrome) works ok on x86

I broke down a got a chrome cast in the end


Does this mean TVNZ on demand works with chromecast? I found that sound worked, but not the picture. 

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