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  # 1299925 7-May-2015 15:13
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richms: I dont want devices that index and store that on the devices, because they tend to be slow and the indexes get out of date.

Then I tried plex. And it put over a million tiny files in the user account of the user that it was running as on the server machine. Seems each track got a copy of artwork and some other metadata in files for that track.

So I am back to just using foobar2000 and regulaly rescanning the shares. It seems the fastest of any on lousy hardware, but still takes 30 seconds or so to search the library for things, thats with loads of swap thrashing too.

My solution to this:
Setup a dedicated account on your NAS/server for media playback, with "read only" access to the media shares.

So your playback device can see everything it needs to, but it cannot litter the shares with various system-specific metadata, weirdly change your tags or do anything else when you least expect it.
I got bitten once badly with trying out some alternative media centre software and it made a right mess of my media.
Luckily, I had full backup I could restore, but now, by design I prevent any player software from being able to modify or create files on my media shares.
This has given me the flexibility to try anything I like (even iTunes ! tongue-out), without borking things completely.
Player software seems to store it's own metadata/db locally, which in my case is on the nice speedy SSD of the IntelNUC, so is pretty responsive.

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Ultimate Geek

  # 1300392 8-May-2015 09:01
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browned: Looked at Kodi this morning, no good, hassle to setup with plugins all over the show and whatever I did it decided to not close and wouldn't go away until I gave it the three finger salute.

Media Portal, wanted to install a server backend so left it at that, when I have time to figure out the server part I might look into it again.

Only two options I have looked at but my options are limited as I want to use Media Browser (emby) with which ever solution I end up on, so at the moment my options are limited.

Maybe the Silicondust media center development will prove useful.

Well I got further with Kodi using NextPVR on my server connected to the HDHomeRuns.

Kodi setup with, emby (Media Browser), Titan with MB support. So far the look is pretty much similar to mediabrowser and mce. But, and here is the thing. The remote is working, some buttons are not. little things that irritate.

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While playing a video, basic functions work play, pause, skip backwards, but skip forward does not. I have discovered that pressing left and right will skip around as well but it seems very odd to me.

In the guide the More Info button doesn't bring up anything, pressing back once will open a menu on the side of the screen that has a set timer option to record something if I remember correctly. Set timer is so strange, how about Record, and record series. It seems so obvious.

I think these are some of the reasons that MCE is so good. setup was so easy, using it day to day was so easy. The setup on Kodi, Mediaportal are not easy and there is a lot of work to make it so. The easy of use when new to it and using the standard windows remote options is not easy for someone new.

Any way just my two cents, I will carry on testing but am no where near the wife approval factor at the moment.

And I just found the I button which should work in the guide to bring up a similar more info screen, great. But trying to set a test series record I cannot scroll down the screen to OK, I have to scroll up to get down to OK. a small irritation but workable.


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Uber Geek

  # 1301705 11-May-2015 08:53
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Every piece of software has a different set of keyboard shortcuts. You might be finding that some of the buttons aren't working because it's not been set up properly to use your remote in mce mode. 

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Master Geek

  # 1308438 20-May-2015 12:57
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Hi Team - I've been away for a few years in Oz, prior to that was a big user of GBPVR - then with the move to Oz, well WMC was a no-brainer as all the EPG automatically came down the DVB-T pipe. It was solid, had great family use thumbs up and I didn't need to spend my busy time on family tech support. I used it on a windozed Mac mini, quiet & depandable
The wheels have fallen off now
I just got a new i7 NUC, was hoping to use my copy of Win7 Ultimate on its third PC but computer said no.

Do I:
Buy a new copy of Win7, use WMC
Buy a copy of Win 8.1, add WMC (I hate 8.1 as a desktop type OS)
Go Win 10 and look for an aftermarket alternative PVR

Very sad to see WMC drop out finally, it was cool when it first came out, didn't change much during its lifetime, was a bit limited but hey, it was perfect for the intended use. Very surprised to see MS drop it

The only thing wrong with it here was the lack of EPG support from the broadcast without third party addons

Anyway - good to be back - hi again everyone


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Ultimate Geek

  # 1308759 20-May-2015 19:39
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Option 1.

Still the best version of windows, and WMC comes free.

Interests: HTPC, Web App authoring. 

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Master Geek

  # 1311444 25-May-2015 17:07
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turb: Option 1.

Still the best version of windows, and WMC comes free.

That's what I thought ....
Its ironically more expensive than 8.1 -

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Ultimate Geek

  # 1311798 26-May-2015 08:37
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Are they still making it? Or are we chasing down the last Win7 discs?

Wills speculators will start buying them and driving up the prices?

Most of us might have come across this guy's site when we have been researching, but here is a link to his DVR guide that came by email this morning:

Seems quite timely!

Interests: HTPC, Web App authoring. 

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