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thesudio
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  #1657657 25-Oct-2016 19:29
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Also vouch for 55" having seen them side by side, non hdr and hdr 60p and 24 etc etc 1080 doesnt stand a chance but they were only doing a deal on the 55 and if I had the money... lol

 
 
 

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Rambaldi
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  #1657662 25-Oct-2016 19:44
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Comparing HDR on them there's a big difference, I was referring to the resolution difference - without taking HDR into account. If you watch something in 4K without HDR then the difference between 55" 1080p and 55" 4K is rather small.


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  #1657666 25-Oct-2016 19:49
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Yeah I somewhat agree, it is minimal in comparison to hdr or 60p but even on comparisons of non hdr, 24p, no upscaling, there is a very disernable difference maybe its just quality is better over all in the new gen tvs but theoretically you are correct.



Rambaldi
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  #1657680 25-Oct-2016 19:55
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I know that I researched it before buying it. I brought a first gen 4K tv initially, which non of the brands had HDR on, that was added with second gen tv's.

 

Thankfully I got to return it for a second gen tv when I discovered it didn't support 4K file formats, couldn't do netflix 4K, and couldn't do 4K with any branded 4K player.


thesudio
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  #1657682 25-Oct-2016 19:56
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Oh man that sucks but great you got to swap it

Rambaldi
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  #1657683 25-Oct-2016 20:02
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thesudio: Oh man that sucks but great you got to swap it

 

 

 

Yeah I brought the Panasonic one, which I think was the only first gen 4K title with a hdmi 2.0 port from memory... which conveniently didn't have the right hdcp.


thesudio
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  #1657690 25-Oct-2016 20:04
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That whole hdcp plus 4k without hdr etc must have stung a lot of people...



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  #1657693 25-Oct-2016 20:09
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My LG doesnt have the right HDCP, and also has issues about what modes it will do 4k from the computer in - seems some combos of the 10 bit stuff will not get 60Hz, RGB works fine tho which is all you need for gaming or watching crappy web video stuff.

 

Also keeps defaulting to some stupid 4000px wide resolution when it is 3840 wide, which has an attrotious scaler in the TV which just seems to drop some columns rather than actually scale it. So m's become n's if they are in the wrong place on the screen and its in that mode.

 

Initially when I got it, the whole backlight would turn off if there was nothing lit in the left half of the screen, so snapping a window to the right and the thing would go dark if I had a black wallpaper. Was going to go back because of that and the non defeatable backlight dimming crap but a software update fixed both of those.





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  #1657712 25-Oct-2016 20:41
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I'm not sure whether mine has the right HDCP. I guess I will need to check at some point.

 

The whole HDCP thing is, in my opinion, a serious issue that retailers and the industry in general has done a very poor job in addressing or explaining to purchasers. I suspect that there may be many people who have never heard of HDCP, but who will soon be very annoyed when they discover that the deluxe 4K telly capable that they dropped a couple of thousand dollars on won't work with the shiny new player and disks on which they have just dropped more money.

 

Interestingly, pirated content that doesn't require HDCP should work just fine. It's only if they try to play legitimate purchased disks that they will be in trouble, meaning there will be quite an incentive created to go for readily-available pirated material. Which is a kind of ironic consequence for what is supposed to be an anti-piracy system........


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  #1657798 25-Oct-2016 22:34
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Pirated content gets problems with that watermarking thing that trips up the playstation as a player tho. If that start to become more common then it might make HDCP defeating boxes useless.





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  #1658673 27-Oct-2016 03:53
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I'm watching a live Microsoft presentation at the moment and just saw them announce for Xbox that it will support bitstream with the Windows 10 Creators update early next year.

 

Now the Xbox One S is a serious option....


kerryland
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  #1658820 27-Oct-2016 11:27
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I just emailed Panasonic NZ to ask about availability of the UB700 player, which is about to be released in the UK. They tell me that they will not be releasing the UB700 in NZ, but that next year they will be offering the UB300 and UB400 for between $400 and $600.

 

I've never heard of the UB300 or UB400.

 

That news about bitstream on the XBox One S changes things up a bit too!


Rambaldi
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  #1658822 27-Oct-2016 11:30
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I'm a bit of a audio novice, how does the Xbox One S getting bitstream change things?

kerryland
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  #1658853 27-Oct-2016 11:51
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It means it can support more audio formats like DTS-X and Dolby Atmos. It also means it will support DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD without 'futzing' with them by adding XBox-generated bleeps and bloops.


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  #1661311 31-Oct-2016 11:29
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This https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/oct/29/planet-earth-ii-bbc-sir-david-attenborough-nature-series-wildlife-animals  looks promising for the 4K / HDR types among you.





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