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Reply # 1925834 27-Dec-2017 19:14

richms:

The 75 seemed to be a very limited batch, all gone now and it had the hopelessly outdated android "smart" stuff in it which if its like their previous attempt will just fail most of the time.

In fairness, it has been on their website for quite a while, but this is the first actual sale they've had on it, so it's anyone's guess how many they had left in stock and how many they've actually sold since bringing them into the market. I bought one online last night so was surprised to see that they had sold out this afternoon, especially when I've added it to the cart a few times months earlier when they had other deals on (for every $100 get $10 off etc), but never ended up going through with it since there were never any actual reviews anywhere. Apparently my one has been dispatched today so it'ill be interesting to check it out in full once it arrives.

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Reply # 1926523 29-Dec-2017 12:03

Jaxson: Veon sound is another level of craptastic I never knew could exist.

I got a Sony CT790 (sound bar with subwoofer) at the same time as my 65" Veon, never used the built in sound. The new model is the CT800, I've seen them for ~$500. Well worth it as a veon accessory IMHO.

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1926656 29-Dec-2017 19:22

Pics of the 75" Veon 4k Smart TV I received yesterday:

spronkey

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Reply # 1926947 30-Dec-2017 13:15

Turbocharged:

Pics of the 75" Veon 4k Smart TV I received yesterday:

Looks to be a better class panel than the 55", and seems to have a nicer brushed finish. Picture looks alright, what's it like in motion?

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1926952 30-Dec-2017 13:32

spronkey:

Turbocharged:

Pics of the 75" Veon 4k Smart TV I received yesterday:

Looks to be a better class panel than the 55", and seems to have a nicer brushed finish. Picture looks alright, what's it like in motion?

Yeah after seeing your post with the glossy bezel I was worried that mine would be the same as I couldn't remember what it looked like in the store and it's hard to tell from the website, but it did turn out to be the nice brushed charcoal finish. The motion is very good, no noticeable ghosting or blurring. I've tried out about half a dozen blur/motion tests on YouTube and they all seem fine. There is some screen bleed from the LED backlight around the edges, but it's only noticeable with very bright backgrounds. I'll have to try and adjust the contrast and brightness to lessen it a bit, but for the most part it doesn't bother me.

grolschie

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Reply # 1927046 30-Dec-2017 16:37

Question:
Sorry if this has been asked already.
Do Veon TVs play nicely with soundbars?

I know with certain LG TVs if you use the LG soundbar connected with HDMI, the TV remote's volume buttons control the soundbar volume. Is this the same when you mix and match brands? Or do you have to use the soundbar's remote?

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1927053 30-Dec-2017 16:49

grolschie: Question:
Sorry if this has been asked already.
Do Veon TVs play nicely with soundbars?

I know with certain LG TVs if you use the LG soundbar connected with HDMI, the TV remote's volume buttons control the soundbar volume. Is this the same when you mix and match brands? Or do you have to use the soundbar's remote?

Yep, I'm using a Panasonic SC-HTE80 soundbar and it works perfectly. You need to go into the menu and change the following settings to 'ON': HDMI CEC, Auto Standby and HDMI ARC. This way you can control the soundbar by using the Veon TV remote and it will automatically turn off the soundbar when switching off the TV (and also deactivate the TV speaker shortly after turning the TV on). The remote is a pain to use though, as it's often unresponsive and laggy unless you're standing a few feet from the IR receiver on the front of the TV. This hasn't really been a problem for me since I use the Sky remote to control the sound, but something to consider if you plan on using it as your main remote. Will be better to use your soundbar's remote to control the sound or buy a universal remote.

The downside with the Veon 75" is that it only has 2 HDMI ports, so one gets used by the soundbar (ARC port) and the other is being used by the SkyTV box. My soundbar does have two HDMI inputs though, so today I hooked up my Chromecast to the other port and I'm now able to stream videos directly through that without having to swap over any cables etc.

I've done quite a bit of research on getting an HDMI switch/splitter as I plan on buying a Bluray 4k player in the future, and have discovered that to get true 4k quality you have to get one that is HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, which is around $100 at the cheapest for a 4-port type ($80 for a 2-port one). All of the 4k ones advertised on TradeMe don't actually support 4k resolution so will revert back to 1080p straight away.

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Reply # 1927054 30-Dec-2017 16:51

Thank you, Turbocharged. That is very helpful!

Dunnersfella

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Reply # 1927056 30-Dec-2017 17:03

Turbocharged - is the Veon 75" using HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 compatible HDMI ports? If so, are they 18Gb or 13.5?

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1927070 30-Dec-2017 17:37

Dunnersfella:

Turbocharged - is the Veon 75" using HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 compatible HDMI ports? If so, are they 18Gb or 13.5?

Yes, both ports are HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 (one is ARC). I'm not sure what they're rated to in terms of Gb though sorry.

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1927098 30-Dec-2017 19:03

Model: Veon 75" 4k Smart TV (VPS75UHD)
Purchase date: December 24, 2017 (delivered Dec 27th)
Price: $2199 with free shipping (Boxing Day special)
Warranty: 3 years

Display:
The display on this TV is nothing short of impressive. I'm in my late 20's and have always liked to keep up with the latest technology and typically stick with big name brands, so to go with a lesser known brand TV from The Warehouse was quite daunting, so I wasn't really expecting too much. Though, after getting it setup and seeing the picture first hand I could literally scrub off the Veon logo on the front, slap a Samsung sticker on instead and you'd be none the wiser. I have read that it uses a Samsung display panel however and other components from big manufacturers such as Sony, LG, Panasonic etc, so it's like a mix of numerous different components from the same suppliers as the bigger brands.

That's not to say it's without it's imperfections though. There is some screen bleed on the very outside edges which is quite noticeable during bright scenes, particularly in a dark room, but you tend to get used to it, especially when you remind yourself of the price point this TV is set at.

In saying that, the brights are bright, the blacks are black and the colours are vibrant, and with numerous picture adjustments available in the menu you can tweak it to your liking. The viewing angle is also very good, with no abnormalities or fading. There is no ghosting/blurring during high speed motion and the 4k up-scaling seems to work well. According to the specs, the screen response time is 8ms.

Start-up time is 19-seconds (Veon logo shows up while booting) and shut down time is 6-seconds (a message on the top RH side of the screen tells you that Android is powering down). Power consumption is 290w, which is about 3x as much as a 55" non-4k TV, so it's not something you want to leave on all night if you're not used to high power bills.

Sound:
I've heard from others who own the 55" and 65" version of this TV that the sound is terrible, but in my opinion the sound from this thing is surprisingly good. When I first got it hooked up I didn't realise that I hadn't plugged my Panasonic soundbar in because it sounded so 'full'. I've had LCD/LED TV's in the past that sound like absolute crap with their built-in speakers, but to me the speakers on the Veon are more than adequate. I still use my soundbar however, and also have it hooked up to the home theatre system for movies etc, but for those who plan on using the TV without any other accessories then the sound shouldn't be a dealbreaker.

Connectability:
On the back panel you have a Micro SD card slot, 3x USB ports (one is standard 2.0, one is high speed 3.0 and the other is for the 'air mouse' dongle for the remote control + in the box it comes with a short USB cable with a male on one end and female on the other, so you don't have to put your head behind the TV every time), LAN/Ethernet port, 2x HDMI ports (both are HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 for 4k and one is ARC for your soundbar etc), 3.5mm headphone output, optical digital audio output, AV input (white/red/yellow), antenna input (standard only, no satellite) and Y/Pb/Pr input (red/green/blue). It has built-in WiFi which supports 2.4GHz only (not 5GHz).

For such a large TV it doesn't make sense why they only included 2 HDMI ports, especially when smaller/lesser end Veon models have 3 ports. I have my soundbar connected to the HDMI 1 ARC port and my SkyTV box connected to HDMI 2. This left me nowhere to plug in my Chromecast, but fortunately I was able to plug it into the spare HDMI port on my soundbar which has the same effect. For those who require more than 2-ports you'll have to buy an HDMI switch/splitter, BUT be careful because if you want to run 4k through the splitter you must get one that is HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 compliant or else it will default back to 1080p and defeat the whole purpose. A company called 8ware make a couple of different types which have the required specs, but be prepared to pay around $80-100. Avoid most of the 4k ones on TradeMe as they are not compatible, despite being marketed as such.

Software/Smart features:
This TV runs Android KitKat 4.4.4. It is essentially a massive version of a tablet/phone, with the menus being exactly the same as what you'd expect. There is no built-in YouTube app on this TV, so you will need to download the app from the Google Play Store which is built-in to the TV (Google account is required). The downside to this however is that the TV 'thinks' it's a mobile device and doesn't detect itself as being a TV (Smart, eh?). When you try to link your TV to your laptop or phone it won't give you the pairing code as it just says "TV not found" on the TV itself, so you'll have to rely on using the built-in internet browser or connect a Chromecast. Since it's Android you can essentially download any app/game you want on it, but since I haven't tried downloading anything else I can't comment on their performance/stability. You won't find any other apps built-in either, such as Netflix or Lightbox so these will need to be downloaded from the Play Store aswell. For reference, the specs state that the built-in memory is 12GB, though you can also store apps on an SD card.

One thing this does have built-in is Freeview Plus, however we currently don't have a terrestrial UHF aerial on the roof (only a Sky satellite) so I am unable to comment on how smoothly this runs.

Remote:
The remote is quite compact at only 6-inches long and has all of the features that you need without seeming overly crowded. It has a QWERTY keyboard on the back and an 'air mouse' feature that allows you to point the floating mouse arrow around the screen to make selections (which comes in handy if you're using the built-in web browser). Aside from that, everything else about the remote is pretty crap. It feels quite cheap and only has a range of about 5-metres. Unless you're standing directly in front of the TV then the remote is often laggy/unresponsive which forces you to press things twice. The volume up/down is the most frustrating part as it lags up badly and doesn't increase/decrease fluidly. I use my SkyTV remote to adjust the sound so it's not too much of a problem, but if this is your only remote and you sit more than 2-metres from the screen you'll likely be searching for a universal alternative in the near future.

Mounting:
The TV comes with metal legs that bolt to the outer edges, and with a length of 1684mm you'll need to buy a very long entertainment unit/cabinet. I mounted mine on the wall straight out of the box, so didn't even end up unwrapping the legs. The wall mounting point is a standard VESA 600x400 pattern to suit most large wall mount brackets, but it's worth noting that the holes are right down the bottom of the TV so if you have an existing wall mount then this will make the TV sit quite a bit higher than it currently does. The weight of the TV with the stand is 31.4kg, so it will be slightly less when wall mounted. Mine is mounted to a wall mount that does up to 70", but is within the 50kg limit and managed to just fit. It was a night spent worrying if it was going to fall off the wall however, but all is well.

Verdict:
I wasn't expecting a lot from this TV and the age old saying of "you get what you pay for" does ring true in some aspects, but if you're after the best bang for your buck, aren't expecting to compare it to a $6000 TV and want something that looks ginormous yet provides a crystal clear picture then you really can't go wrong with the Veon 75". This thing is a monster for a tiny price, and with a 3-year warranty for peace of mind I doubt you'll be disappointed.

For anyone wanting to read through the user manual for the 55"/75" and see all of the other specs please see this link: http://docs.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/pdfs/ces/manuals/VPS55UHD%20VPS75UHD%20Veon%2075%20inch%20and%2055%20inch%20android%20manual.pdf

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Reply # 1927158 30-Dec-2017 21:37

Has anyone seen those TCL TVs you can get from JB Hi Fi?

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Reply # 1927410 31-Dec-2017 18:15

It looks like a good buy for an affordable large screen TV.

The major irritation from my perspective would be that it only has 2 HDMI ports. Most people in the market for a larger and higher end TV would have more devices that this. With with Sky boxes, media boxes, game consoles, blu ray players, chromecasts etc I would suspect that this would be very limiting for many potential purchasers. Personally, I would expect 4 HDMI ports on a TV of this type/size.

Turbocharged

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Reply # 1927418 31-Dec-2017 18:49

JimmyH:

It looks like a good buy for an affordable large screen TV.

The major irritation from my perspective would be that it only has 2 HDMI ports. Most people in the market for a larger and higher end TV would have more devices that this. With with Sky boxes, media boxes, game consoles, blu ray players, chromecasts etc I would suspect that this would be very limiting for many potential purchasers. Personally, I would expect 4 HDMI ports on a TV of this type/size.

Yes, the lack of HDMI ports on a TV this large is bizarre. I could understand that on a TV from 2011, but not in 2017/2018. The 65" equivalent Smart TV also only has 2 HDMI ports (same goes for all their other size Smart TVs), but the 65", 55", 49", 43" etc non-Smart TVs have 3 HDMI inputs, so maybe they ran out of space or processing power - Who knows. Though, in saying that, both ports are HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 so will support 4k, whereas a lot of big brand TVs only have one dedicated HDMI 2.0 port, so it's a strange trade off. Fortunately it's easy enough to add an HDMI splitter/switch and these days they come with a remote and automatic intelligent switching, so not quite the problem it appears to be on paper.

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Reply # 1927622 1-Jan-2018 15:03

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lokhor:

Has anyone seen those TCL TVs you can get from JB Hi Fi?

Yep bought the 55" one for $798 on Friday.

Never heard of the brand and thought it was an inhouse brand like Soniq or Veon but then saw Heathcotes, Farmers, Appliance Shed selling the brand so I did some research (googling). Turns out they're a reasonably big outfit (3rd largest tv supplier based on volume). I'm liking it to where Huawei were say 5 years ago when no one knew who they were.

Anyway never was too keen on smart tv's , after hearing of the tv manufacturers abandoning support and apps no longer working. Always preferred a separate box which could be upgraded. This 55" comes with android tv 6.0 and it's nice, really nice - better than any android box I've ever used.

Setup was a breeze - turned the tv on, fired up my android phone and then "ok google, set up my device" and it was away. Didn't have to connect to my wifi or anything.

I was setting it up running netflix, installing Kodi and linking that to my network for streaming, playing around with the various apps, after 1.5 hours it occurred to me to see how the free to air tv works.

TV takes around 30 secs to boot up but that's not uncommon for android tv.

Comes with a decent range of apps installed - GoLive for chinese channels, Freeview Plus (although I notice some programs (like Young Sheldon) don't seem to work), netflix, youtube. Has the playstore plus their own TCL app store.

UMI is responsive and remote works well. Can use my phone as well (I was on the loo changing channels to annoy my wife while she watched tv - TMI?)

Can't common on picture quality as my standards are fairly low. Same with sound.

3 x HDMI, 1 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB 3.0 should cover all my needs.

Builtin chromecast as well

I'm quite happy with it especially for the price. Will be interesting to see if the OS gets updated much.

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