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Topic # 196560 4-Jun-2016 11:24
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Well I got the HDFury Integral this morning and it works wells. (from WiredNZ who are the only people who sell it in NZ) . You can get it from overseas but the price is compatible and getting it from a NZ Company gives me the CGA.


The only thing it came with a UK Socket USB Adapter and an UK -> "Export only NZ Pin Travel Adapter" Adapter which was illegal for WiredNZ to sell with . (This was in the well sealed package from HDFury themselves so they would of had to open the packaging and replace it to make it legal)




I "Fixed" that issue by not using it and taking USB power off something more legal.


Basically my problem was that my TV (65" 4K Sony KD65X9004A) did not do HDCP 2.2 but all my other devices did (Onkyo AMP and Roku) so I could not watch 4K Material from the Roku (Netflix,Youtube etc) as you have to have HDCP 2.2 all the way.


To cut it sort.. it works well. I placed it between the AMP (Onkyo) and the TV so now the AMP (and everything connected via it) thinks I have a HDCP 2.2 Complainant device and from the HDFury to TV talks HDCP 1.4.  (Basically Its a HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 -> HDMI 2.0/HDCP1.4 Convertor)


Now to wait for 4K Bluray Players to get to NZ .. Unless someone wants to allow me to borrow theirs?













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  Reply # 1571154 13-Jun-2016 16:46
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I may be a bit late with this post, but I have some questions around your solution here. I have a similair situation, but the difference is that my media player (Nvidia Shield) and TV (LG 4K something) both support 2160P@60Hz, but my receiver, also an Onkyo, does not. It's limited to HDMI 1.4.


Using an HDMI connection straight from the Shield to the TV the picture is way better than through the AVR, but no sound through the AVR obviously. I have read that using a splitter works here to get the full noise through the receiver. Higher refresh rate AND audio. This issue is really an HDMI version issue rather that a HDCP issue though. I cannot find anything online that is really definitive regarding a solution to this.





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  Reply # 1571168 13-Jun-2016 17:14
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As far as I know HDMI 2.0 just gives you more bankwidth and a few more features but its basically the same


So Shield->TV you get 4K but Shield.. Onkyo... TV you get nothing?


As the Shield needs HDCP 2.2 all the way (each step) it will not see it on the Onkyo and Fail. 


The HDFury Integral should resolve this issue but downgrading the HDCP. (Between the Shield and Onkyo) (Shield. Integral..Onkyo.. TV)


Also you could go  Shield.. Integral.. TV and use the Integral to Extract the Audio and sent to the Onkyo via SPDIF Cable (comes with it)











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  Reply # 1571175 13-Jun-2016 17:30
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Yeah thanks,


So HDMI 2.0 gives you video refreshing at 60FPS, which the TV supports. Not a big deal with movies as they are way less than that (24Hz I think), but live broadcasts, sport etc are @60Hz. I have some great quality RWC matches that aren't cutting it at 30Hz, which is the limit for HDMI 1.4. The bottleneck in my setup.


Currently I can see 4K video from Kodi and Youtube, don't have Netflix. Like I said it's really a refresh rate issue, but just for some video files. Audio return back to the receiver might solve it.





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  Reply # 1572042 14-Jun-2016 23:44
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If the RWC matches are 1080P then your receiver should support 1920@60hz

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AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-LX87 220W 9.2 Ch AVR
Speakers: Wharfedale Jade 7 Fronts / Jade 2c Center / Jade 5 Rears
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  Reply # 1572120 15-Jun-2016 09:31
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You're right, that is exactly the problem. Receiver is HDMI 1.4 only.

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