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cyril7
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  #138312 16-Jun-2008 10:43
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jburrows, the installer will not copy stuff off you HDisc it will be gone for good, so anything you might want to keep, transfer it off before he arrives.

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  #138314 16-Jun-2008 10:43
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Nope. You will start with a blank box. They will take your old mysky away and you will lose your content if you choose not to take multiroom.




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  #138394 16-Jun-2008 15:34
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Just got home and got the letter from Sky saying "You already have a MY SKY decoder so we'd like you to be among the first to upgrade to HD. As a special offer, we'll install a brand new MY SKY HDi decoder for just $49.00 when you subscribe to SKY's HD Ticket or Multiroom.". I thought great I will get hem to install ASAP so called them.

After calling them, it turns out current subscribers get it no earlier than regular subscribers, we can book it now, but it won't be installed until after it is launched. Ok no biggy, but here's the thing, unless someone can clear this up for me I will not be getting it.

Me: "Does the new box still have all the usual outlets so if I wanted to connect it to a non HD TV (i.e one without a HDMI port, or one in another room) I can?"

CSR: "No it does not"

Me: "So it can ONLY be connected to one TV and that TV must have HDMI and no others?"

CSR: "That is correct, you would need a HDMI TV or Multiroom for that"

Me: "Yes but the previous two Sky boxes could, they both had aerial outs and video outs"

CSR: "Yes, but this one doesn't"

ME: "are you sure?"

CSR: "Yes sir, you will need to get Multiroom if you want to watch it in more than one room"

---END OF CALL---

So is this true, or is this the usual - you can but we're not gonna tell you you can cause we want as much money from you as possibe and if you don't like it you can go to our competitor.......oh no wait.....we a monopoly and don't have any competitors, oh well if you don't like it tough.



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  #138397 16-Jun-2008 15:40
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Hi,

If you have a home theatre amp with HDMI, you should be able run the mySky HD into that, and then route it out via the right type of input you need for your TV.

JB

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  #138400 16-Jun-2008 15:43
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This picture shows you all the connections the new box has. It still has the scart ports and some composite ones. It does however exclude the rf pass through of old sky boxes so you can't pass the signal out through normal RG6 cable to watch the current sky channel. This would be possible by connecting the composite to a vcr or similar and then taking the feed out of the vcr. But yes you will definetly be able to connect this box to any tv Standard def or high def. But in order to get the HD signal you will need to use the HDMI port as the HDCP flag will be enabled as i understand it.

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  #138401 16-Jun-2008 15:48
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Bummer....I used to feed the rest of my house from the 2nd RF out cable in the My Sky Box.....what to do now!!!!!


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  #138402 16-Jun-2008 15:49
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NZBullet, the HDi does have composite, component, S-Video output that works regarless of the HDMI port, however except for the component output you will naturally only get SD out of composite and S-Vid simultaneously to outputing HD via HDMI.

As for the analog component, well untill we find if SkyNZ invoke or not the ICT flag the component output will probably only output SD, time will tell.

That said there is no RF output, so to feed others TVs via a coax distribution system will require a seperate modulator (old VCR purhaps) to provide that reticulation source.

Cyril



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  #138404 16-Jun-2008 15:55
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jburrows:

Bummer....I used to feed the rest of my house from the 2nd RF out cable in the My Sky Box.....what to do now!!!!!



You will have to buy an RF modulator if you still want do do that, they're pretty cheap these days.

The reasoning behind this is that it's pretty much pointless these days now that people have flat screen TV's everywhere and want a HD or high quality SD picture distributed around the house rather than a poor quality modulated RF signal. Baluns to run component over cat5e cable are dirt cheap and HDMI baluns are also available (but not quite so cheap).

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  #138406 16-Jun-2008 15:59
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jasonbrice: Hi,

If you have a home theatre amp with HDMI, you should be able run the mySky HD into that, and then route it out via the right type of input you need for your TV.

JB


This specifically will not work. No HDMI receivers, to my knowledge, downcovert HDMI to analog. I believe this is due to copy protection issues though I can't see the harm in downconverting to SD. 

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  #138410 16-Jun-2008 16:04
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Hey everyone,

Thanks for the replies, appreciate everyones help.

Retorical Question: Why could he not just say, yes you can connect it to a vcr, dvd, home theatre etc etc.

Anyway, looks like I will get it after all.

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  #138414 16-Jun-2008 16:11
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Sky's wording on that mailout is a bit dubious.

"Subscribe to SKY's HD Ticket today and we'll install a MY SKY HDi decoder for just $49. You'll get SKY Sport 1, SKY Sport 2, SKY Movies and SKY Movies Greats in HD quality for just $10 per month."

That implies you don't have to be subscribed to Sport and Movies in the first place. Still it gets people to the phone I suppose!

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  #138426 16-Jun-2008 16:30
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hmmm interesting.  I sure hope Sky do have some sort of non HDMI output, even if it's downscaled. 320GB of HDD will get eaten up in no time.

According to the Foxtel blog (the very latest one).  They will have all their SD ports live (SCART, RCA etc).  Also they initially will have the component ports open, to be eventually shut off.  However, it seems Sky are not going down this route.

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  #138432 16-Jun-2008 16:43
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Currently have multiroom with 2 standard decoders. I have HDi scheduled for install 1st week Aug $599. 
If I ring back and request them to also replace the 2nd standard decoder with a normal Mysky would I have to pay another $599?





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  #138434 16-Jun-2008 16:46
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Ok now I'm really confused.

When I called them I told them about wanting to use the HD box on a SDTV that does not have HDMI, as I'm holding off for a HDTV because of built-in DVB-T - they said it was fine.

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  #138442 16-Jun-2008 16:53
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hmmm interesting.  I sure hope Sky do have some sort of non HDMI output, even if it's downscaled. 320GB of HDD will get eaten up in no time


Repeating yet again it will provide simultaneous SD output via the usuaal provided analog ports (except RF), only unknown is will the component port be ICT concience or not and will the ICT be active always or on specific material, this is unknown.

As for the 320GB drive, its twice the size of the standard MySky, SD channels will use the same space as the standard MySky, only HD channels will burn up disc realestate.

Cyril

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