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  # 138454 16-Jun-2008 17:07
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You know i just phoned sky to upgrade from mysky to hdi and found that you have to give back the old box but i have already paid $600 for the mysky box so infact the box is my property and the fact that sky want $49 for hd doesn't mean that i should return the old box. also like the a few of you i to run a Rf out to other rooms with the tv I link so that i can watch and change channels with out the use of multiroom. I asked are sky thinking of putting Rf outs on at anytime and was told that it could be put on the next upgraded box. so after they are bringing out the hdi box they are already looking at upgrading to a new box, so i think that i will wait for the new box.

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  # 138461 16-Jun-2008 17:15
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As with all sky decoders they remain sky's property even after you pay for them, this is quite well documented here.

The advantage of this is that if they ever break you have an unlimited warranty and they will always service/replace them for you.

The $49 upgrade fee would hardly be an upgrade fee if you got to keep the old decoder. Then it would be more of a buying fee and nobody is going to give away a mySky HDi box for $50! there is however quite a good deal on multiroom if you wish to keep your old decoder.

As for a new box well we all know how long it takes sky to do this kind of thing, so expect to be waiting a few years for it.

 
 
 
 


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  # 138580 16-Jun-2008 22:19
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deadman: You know i just phoned sky to upgrade from mysky to hdi and found that you have to give back the old box but i have already paid $600 for the mysky box so infact the box is my property and the fact that sky want $49 for hd doesn't mean that i should return the old box. also like the a few of you i to run a Rf out to other rooms with the tv I link so that i can watch and change channels with out the use of multiroom. I asked are sky thinking of putting Rf outs on at anytime and was told that it could be put on the next upgraded box. so after they are bringing out the hdi box they are already looking at upgrading to a new box, so i think that i will wait for the new box.

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As said, in the contract, even though you shelled out $600 for the Mysky box, it's still theirs, they can sieze it back any time they want also without a reason pretty much. Sad but true.

And chances of a new HDi box in the next 5 years? i say nil at skys current rate of getting things done. If RF out isnt a possibility for the the HDi's hardware, its not going to happen any time soon.

Also they only put RF out on there for the old tvs without composite inputs, i bet they wouldnt prefer that you were using one box for two rooms (even though you can only watch one channel), and want you to buy multiroom. RF wasnt intended to run to another TV.

The chances of RF out going on any future HD capable box's i think is very slim, they are even saying to people without HDMI tv's that they cant get the box which is rubbish, which isnt a good start on the RF front, as in terms of preferred delivery method this ranks lowest.

We run Composite + Mono audio to the TV upstairs to get sky up there from a standard box, and it is useful i agree. Would run stero but the cable we have is much too thick.

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  # 138592 17-Jun-2008 01:07
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Great info in this forum. I am trying to find out whether I will be able to get HD from the MySky HD to my Plasma TV & any advice would be appreciated. It is a 2005 Samsung PS850P4H1X. There is no HDMI connector, there is component videos (which I read are disabled for HD on the MySky HD box) and there is DVI (but no mention of HDCP).

Do you think I might be able to use a DVI - HDMI converter or am I stuffed without HDCP (or could it have HDCP support over DVI without stating it in the manual....getting wishful thinking here..)

Even if I only can get a SD signal I am still tempted to get the MySky HDI for it's recording ability at $15/month until I replace by TV, but obviously HD now would be great if it worked with my TV.

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  # 138620 17-Jun-2008 08:40
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Even if I only can get a SD signal I am still tempted to get the MySky HDI for it's recording ability at $15/month until I replace by TV, but obviously HD now would be great if it worked with my TV.


Seems rather pointless unless your HD TV is going to happen soon.  Just have to have tthe HDD on the Mysky fail and all your stored HD content is gone for good..




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  # 138642 17-Jun-2008 10:02
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This is a little off-topic, but yesterday I bought a remote control extender (IR3000 from Hills) from Dick Smith's, and while it is great for all my other devices, it performs particularly poorly with the MySky remote.

Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions of other devices?

Thanks,
JB

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  # 138653 17-Jun-2008 10:56
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jasonbrice: This is a little off-topic, but yesterday I bought a remote control extender (IR3000 from Hills) from Dick Smith's, and while it is great for all my other devices, it performs particularly poorly with the MySky remote.

Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions of other devices?

Thanks,
JB


I have tried a couple of remote control extenders (one im currently using is the Jaycar product - AR1810). Both products I tried (cant remember the name of the other one) are patchy, but the Jaycar one IMHO is slightly better. However while sometimes it works perfectly, the next day might be the complete opposite.

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  # 138654 17-Jun-2008 10:57
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jasonbrice: This is a little off-topic, but yesterday I bought a remote control extender (IR3000 from Hills) from Dick Smith's, and while it is great for all my other devices, it performs particularly poorly with the MySky remote.

Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions of other devices?

Thanks,
JB


Putting mysky + remote + extender into the geekzone search returned 12 results.  The most promising of which appears to be

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=34&TopicId=21423

What it boils down to is MySky and MySky HDi are 'special'.




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  # 138658 17-Jun-2008 11:10
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jasonbrice: This is a little off-topic, but yesterday I bought a remote control extender (IR3000 from Hills) from Dick Smith's, and while it is great for all my other devices, it performs particularly poorly with the MySky remote.

Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions of other devices?

Thanks,
JB



Jasonbrice, My Sky use IR signals of shorter pulse length which is the reason that many IR extenders won't cope with it.

Try experimenting putting yout IR3000 units at an angle to My Sky and remote direction. This may just get you enough signal to work OK.

I have heard of 5.8 ghz extenders that work with My Sky but can't give you a model.

Alteratively you will need to use a hard-wired extender such as Blue-Eye or TradeTech .This could get a bit expensive as you probably need to buy a hub for power etc unless you are electrically minded.

Please confirm before you buy with the seller as I haven't used them.

Jaycar also makes one that you have to build yourself (soldering) which works great. (You plug in a 9V power supply)

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  # 138675 17-Jun-2008 12:07
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jasonbrice: This is a little off-topic, but yesterday I bought a remote control extender (IR3000 from Hills) from Dick Smith's, and while it is great for all my other devices, it performs particularly poorly with the MySky remote.

Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions of other devices?

Thanks,
JB



I use a Powermid XL for MY Sky and it works fine - no problems at all, got it from here -


http://www.envioustechnology.com.au/products/product-list.php?CID=305

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  # 139112 19-Jun-2008 08:28
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Hi there guys,

I have tried to read every post in this thread but am a little confused.

We've been waiting for the release of MySky2 - as we ummed and erred over which way we wanted to do it - our own PVR or MySky.  When I googled about it late last year I took note of all the gossip of Mysky2 which was to be released this year.

We decided to go with Mysky2 - I didn't want to use my computer as a PVR - too complicated, didn't want my computer permanently on among a list of other reason.

So we decided to wait for the release of Mysky2 (We liked the thought of using it to record 3 channels at the same time (as we can still watch normal tv and just use Mysky like a vcr(can't wait to do away with tapes) - after phoning sky about Mysky1. 

Now we see the time has finally arrived, but I am sooo confused about all the gobbly gook chatter - that my head is spinning.  So I am wondering if one of you lovely techy minded people could answer my maybe stupid and/or already answered questions in this thread.

1/ We currently have Sky Digital - which runs a feed downstairs to another TV - is this still possible with the new MySky2?  I really don't want to incur the cost of Multiroom - as I am using it on the tv downstairs just so I can watch tv in bed.  And my kids are still two young to have their own decoder - we were waiting for them to be teens before we incurred that cost.

If this is no and there is another technical way of doing it without the multiroom - does the Skyman hook this all up for you?  Like he did for me wiring it downstairs when we got digital first installed.  I guess if not, I have to forgo watching tv in bed Cry

2/ I've seen contradicting posts on this, but we don't yet have a HDMI TV.  Does the MySky2 work on a normal tv?  We are hoping to upgrade TV next year or two - as we just got my Philips Flatscreen tv repaired (at no cost under consumers guarantee act) - so it can last a while longer.  I've heard yes it can.  And from what I've read, even if you want to use the HD component of it, that is an extra $10 a month anyways. 

3/ Does anyone yet know, if paying of the $599 install/decoder fee at $15, instead of paying upfront - stops after the $599 has being paid?  When we first got Sky Digital installed, we did it this way, and once it was paid off, we just paid our normal subscription.  I think if Sky goes beyond this - they are just milking us for above and beyond - which no resonable justification.

I really appreciate your replies guys.

Ang




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  # 139115 19-Jun-2008 08:52
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kiwipearls: 1/ We currently have Sky Digital - which runs a feed downstairs to another TV - is this still possible with the new MySky2?

It is possible, but you would need to get 3 cables run downstairs instead of the one you currently have i.e. Composite Video + L/R audio.  A real PITA and you may encounter hum pick-up in the audio.  Not recommended unless it is a very short distance.

kiwipearls: 2/ I've seen contradicting posts on this, but we don't yet have a HDMI TV.  Does the MySky2 work on a normal tv? 

Yes it will, but only at SD obviously.  You can connect via Composite Video or Component Video but not HDMI.

kiwipearls: 3/ Does anyone yet know, if paying of the $599 install/decoder fee at $15, instead of paying upfront - stops after the $599 has being paid?

Not from what I've seen.  You just keep paying $15 per month for ever Frown

You have to take your choice at the beginning and live with the consequences.

Because you don't have an HDTV, MySky HD offers no benefit to you, and in fact will disable your access to the downstairs TV unless you reorganise your cabling as suggested above.  So I would suggest that you sign up for the original MySky while they are still available.  Your downstairs TV will continue to work, and you can upgrade later to MySky HD for $50 or so when you have that shiny new HD TV Smile

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  # 139120 19-Jun-2008 09:16
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Yes but the orginal Mysky does not have the features we want.

We liked the 3 tuners in MySky2 and the bigger Hard-drive - that is what attracted us to it in the first place (as we sometimes need to record 3 channels at the same time and have to get a friend to do it) - as we want to record a lot of our tv programmes and watch them when we want.  The Hi-Def stuff would just be a bonus untill we get the HDMI TV.

Hmmm...might have to get multiroom then -as wiring up all the other wires would be a big cost and a hassle.  I'll just have to get the kids to watch more disney channel so that I feel we're getting our monies worth..lol   Does it cost $49 per room?  ie if I do my bedroom and 2 kids rooms that would be $147? 

And in regards to installation, I guess the most logical decision is pay the $599 up front.  I'm not an idiot and not paying more than the $599 after 40 months is up. 




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  # 139122 19-Jun-2008 09:30
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kiwipearls: We liked the 3 tuners in MySky2 and the bigger Hard-drive - that is what attracted us to it in the first place (as we sometimes need to record 3 channels at the same time and have to get a friend to do it)...

The 2 tuners in MySky have always been enough for us, and my wife is quite an avid TV watcher who records all manner of stuff.  We have never yet managed to fill up the Hard Drive either, although it has come close a couple of times, usually when we go on a trip and leave all the Series Linked programmes stacking up.

If you really do need 3 simultaneous recordings to be made, well MySky HD it will have to be I suppose.

kiwipearls: Hmmm...might have to get multiroom then -as wiring up all the other wires would be a big cost and a hassle.  I'll just have to get the kids to watch more disney channel so that I feel we're getting our monies worth..lol   Does it cost $49 per room?  ie if I do my bedroom and 2 kids rooms that would be $147?

As far as I know it is $25 per month extra per decoder.  I would suggest just getting one additional decoder (or keeping the one you already have) and looping the RF output through to the 2 kids rooms.  They can both watch whatever you decide so that way you keep control over their viewing habits at this early age Smile

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  # 139126 19-Jun-2008 09:48
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You could get mysky Hdi and one of these:

http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4859815b02a37eb2273fc0a87f3b06fd/Product/View/L0200

They are only $50 and should do the trick. No wires! If you have a wifi network you may get some interference (I got interference with a 2.4 GHz cordless phone we had) but if it is no good just return it direct to DSE within the 14 day return period.

It also has an IR repeater so you can change channels etc, however some IR repeaters don't work with mysky.

I think only two tuners are going to be active on the mysky Hdi initially so it will have the same functionality as mysky 1 until later in the year.



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