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#149065 18-Jul-2008 07:54

Well in the last few days Sky has been running briefings for installers on the new HDi, not being a Sky installer I didnt get an invite

but from what I have been told they actually intend to run two cables to the LNB (which will be a quad output, but only 3used) the new cable will infact be a dual siamese type that has two coaxs in one sheath. What I have not established is if this will happen from day one with all HDi installs, or will it happen sometime latter (I mean the satellite they will have the new capacity at is not in the air yet). And will this upgrade eventaully be rolled out to standard SD subscribers, will be insteresting to see what transpires.

I am assuming that they are looking for both D1H&V and D3H, I dont think there is any usefull Vpol planned for D3, and naturally there is plenty of Vpol split antenna on D1.

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#149070 18-Jul-2008 08:18

Perhaps they are hedging their bets as to whether the new satellite will be Vpol or Hpol after the D1 debarcle!!

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#149077 18-Jul-2008 09:14

I picked myself up a new 37" 1080P Samsung on the weekend and to my joy it comes with 6 months MYSky HDi (Free Decoder rental, HD addon - just pay for the usual months access). I eagerly sent in the form - and have just now talked to Sky about install.
Heres the stinker.
Closest install time is September 3rd! 2 Months Away! LAME.
In other news - good job to Sky to finally adding monthly hires on Mysky. $15p.m. still takes 40 months to pay off $599. A much better deal I thinks.

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#149086 18-Jul-2008 09:30

so Cyril, your understanding is they will replace the dish for a 75cm and LNB plus add more cable? I read that somewhere but can't remember where.

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#149090 18-Jul-2008 09:43

Lotech, the $15 doesnt "pay off" the decoder tho does it. You just keep paying the $15 for ever? Plus Cyril7, In my new house I was going to get the sky guy to run to my central distribution under the stairs and then run my own rg6 to where the decoder will sit in the lounge. Does this mean i should run more than one rg6 cable?

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#149101 18-Jul-2008 10:02

Hi, getting info out of anyone seems bit difficult at this moment, but sounds like they are wanting 3runs from dish to HDi, and to make it easier/quicker they will be using a siamese cable (ie two bonded together), but if you are prewiring buffalo, I would be running 3 from central hub to dish site, and 3 or ideally 4 from hub to HDi site. I have been running two to roof for sometime, did not expect the 3rd. Alltranz, the LNB would need upgrading but not heard about bigger dishes. Obviously more unknowns are will it eventually apply to all installs not just HDi, and will it all happen immediately HDi's are rolled out or 2nd visits.

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#149116 18-Jul-2008 11:05

Could it possibly be for HD movies on demand on Vpol shared with Foxtel? This would limit the required cable runs to Hdi installs only.

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#149134 18-Jul-2008 12:40

From what I'm reading here, I'm getting the distinct impression that SKY is trying to do this HD operation on a "they pay as we go" basis, ie, advertise and sell the goods even though they aren't actually available.

I wonder what might happen if the planned uptake turns out to be less than budgeted for? Mass refunds?

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#149390 19-Jul-2008 08:30

I ordered MYSky HDi yesterday. I have a standard Digital subsscription and they gave me 4 free months on multiroom. I do not have sports or movies, and really only want mysky for recording.

Cyril7, do you think they will do a completely new cable run from the dish to the Skybox? I hope so as my house has it's decoder in the stupidest place at the moment (wrong corner of the lounge - why anyone ever had a TV there I will never know!). The CSR also said the installer will run another cable to wherever I want the 2nd decoder (he could be sorry about that).

The CSR did say that the HDi box will not allow for multiple TVs off the one decoder, but I assumed (correct me if I'm wrong) that he meant there was no RF output. What I plan to do after the 4 months is up is get a RF modulator like this and feed the signal back through the house (as I do now with my standard digital box).
I don't have an HD TV at the moment (I think the CSR thought I was mental), but looking at the specs of the MySky HDi box, there are plenty of outputs to choose from on the back, so one to a RF modulator and one via composite/S-Video to my main TV shouldn't be an issue??

The only stink thing - no install till Sept 6th. :( I assume that they don't actually have any of the boxes in the country yet and are making a big song and dance about it (like they did with MySky1). I just hope there aren't further delays.

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#149393 19-Jul-2008 09:10

trig42: I ordered MYSky HDi yesterday. I have a standard Digital subsscription and they gave me 4 free months on multiroom. I do not have sports or movies, and really only want mysky for recording.

Cyril7, do you think they will do a completely new cable run from the dish to the Skybox? I hope so as my house has it's decoder in the stupidest place at the moment (wrong corner of the lounge - why anyone ever had a TV there I will never know!). The CSR also said the installer will run another cable to wherever I want the 2nd decoder (he could be sorry about that).

The CSR did say that the HDi box will not allow for multiple TVs off the one decoder, but I assumed (correct me if I'm wrong) that he meant there was no RF output. What I plan to do after the 4 months is up is get a RF modulator like this and feed the signal back through the house (as I do now with my standard digital box).
I don't have an HD TV at the moment (I think the CSR thought I was mental), but looking at the specs of the MySky HDi box, there are plenty of outputs to choose from on the back, so one to a RF modulator and one via composite/S-Video to my main TV shouldn't be an issue??

The only stink thing - no install till Sept 6th. :( I assume that they don't actually have any of the boxes in the country yet and are making a big song and dance about it (like they did with MySky1). I just hope there aren't further delays.

I kinda think your mental as well getting Sky HD with no HD TV either, you might as well get regular MySky and upgrade later - at a very small upgrade cost. There are no "further delays", since you only booked yesterday thats why you are at the end of the queue. We booked ours in June and install date is 4th August, first installs start 29th July confirmed just as they said. We didn't have a big song and dance when we booked and got MySky when that was first announed a couple of years ago. Book early and don't muck around, if you want something like this - was announced nearly two months ago, don't complain that you can't get it Today. You snooze you lose.

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#149397 19-Jul-2008 09:26

I don't think mysky 1 is available as an option anymore.

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#149403 19-Jul-2008 09:42

hairy1: I don't think mysky 1 is available as an option anymore.

Oh yes it is [ confirmed by Sky ] In hindsight if you don't have either, go for HDi for the larger hardrive and not pay the HD ticket if you don't have a hd tv but wait two months or so for your install.

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#149421 19-Jul-2008 10:53

Hi TRIG42
Yes the new MySkyHDi will store more than the original MySky. I understand 90 minutes SD rather than 60 minutes, some of the extra space dedicated to on demand movies?. After having lost all when 1st MySky died anything I want to keep goes to another PVR. I am assuming that the output, on the MySkyHDi, from the VCR SCART will be SD over composite but that will be better than nothing.
Hope this is not fo topic but does anyone have any idea just how much data is collected by the satellite dish. I once considered the idea of recording the whole feed then feeding it through the Sky decoder so as to be able to watch two shows that had been shown at the same time (idea was pre MySky). Did not pursue the idea as I figured that even very large hard drives would be swamped very quickly.

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#149443 19-Jul-2008 12:44

Hope this is not fo topic but does anyone have any idea just how much data is collected by the satellite dish. I once considered the idea of recording the whole feed then feeding it through the Sky decoder so as to be able to watch two shows that had been shown at the same time (idea was pre MySky). Did not pursue the idea as I figured that even very large hard drives would be swamped very quickly.

Well its encrypted so thats a bit of an issue, but beyond that each mux has a post FEC (ie useable) bitrate of around 30Mb/s, currently Sky has 11muxs in use, and FreeView 2muxs, so in total around 400Mb/s.

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#149452 19-Jul-2008 13:47

clevedon:There are no "further delays", since you only booked yesterday thats why you are at the end of the queue. We booked ours in June and install date is 4th August, first installs start 29th July confirmed just as they said. We didn't have a big song and dance when we booked and got MySky when that was first announed a couple of years ago. Book early and don't muck around, if you want something like this - was announced nearly two months ago, don't complain that you can't get it Today. You snooze you lose.

I agree. Didn't make up my mind until June 20th and by then the earliest install in my area was 11 August. I actually rang Sky this week to check it was still on and they confirmed 9-12am on 11th August for my installation.

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