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Topic # 23923 11-Jul-2008 11:57
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They had deals goins this week.  Normally the BD-30 is $800 but the deal was $649.  I was hoping to get a player around $600 but thought I would have to wait for Christmas for that price.  So I bought it now for $49 extra than what I was intending to pay for it.

Ok I have set up the BD-30 last night but only had enough time to test a few discs on a few
scenes. My setup is the BD-30 connected to my Panasonic AX-100 720p projector using HDMI. Audio
is connected to my old Sony receiver (can't remember the model number) using the coaxial digital
port.

When the guy gave me the box in the shop I thought he had given me an empty box, it was that
light. The machine itself did seem seem a bit flimsy but since you mostly just set it up and
forget it it shouldn't be a problem.

In the manual it states it only plays region 4 and region free DVD's. Therefore I assume it was
made region locked. To my eye the DVD upconversion was no better or worse than my sony
upconverting DVD player. Granted I don't have an oppo or anything but I don't think the BD-30 is
completely crap for DVD's, just average. In saying that most people already have an upconverting
multizone DVD player, so you should stick with that for DVD's and use the BD-30 for Blu-Ray only
if you can.

I connected everything up and the set up the audio options so that the receiver will pick up the DD or
DTS tracks from the Blu-Ray disc and set the video to 24fps. I chucked in a movie and I was very
impressed with the speed of loading the menus etc. I haven't used any other BD player before but
it was not much slower than my current DVD player so I think loading times are not a problem on
this player.

Ok well my expectations were that I would notice a difference between upconverted DVD and Blu-Ray
but since my projector is only 720p I probably shouldn't expect too much. After putting
in The Fifth Element Remastered, these were the 3 words I uttered: OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Surprised

The picture quality just blew me away. High def was a revelation to my eyes. It was as if the fog
inside my eyes had cleared and I could see everything in perfection. It was that good. I'm sure
that if I had seen an HD-DVD movie I would have been similarly blown away, I am lauding High Def
not just Blu-Ray. I watched a few scenes in utter amazement and then put in Pirates 2 and was again
just blown away by the detail and clarity and just noticed so much more detail than on DVD, like the
sweat on the faces of the archaeologists at the beginning of The Fifth Element.

The sounds was also very impressive even though I was not getting the lossless tracks. It was awesome.
I had to turn down the volume from what I normally have it set at for my DVD player. I can only imagine
what the lossless tracks sound like. I am happy to wait until the receivers which can decode the
lossless tracks come down in price.

My original plan was to just buy movies I liked which were blockbuster action movies or sci fi movies
or movies with heavy special effects. Well after watching some trailers like the one for Invincible
a grid iron movie, again I was blown away with the crispness of the picture without any special effects.
Basically I will buy any movie I like on Blu-Ray no matter what type of movie it is and then rent others
I don't want to own and only rent SD-DVD if the Blu-Ray is not available. I will not be buying any more
SD-DVD except for seinfeld which I really want but is not on Blu-Ray. As the cliche goes, once you
experience high def you can never go back.

All in all I am extremely impressed with this player for Blu-Ray playback. It fits my needs perfectly
and the price was great. Connected to a projector at 24fps it is just beautiful. You will need to
decide if it meets your needs and are happy with some of it's small flaws. I am glad I spent $50 extra
than what I originally wanted to spend to get into Blu-Ray now. All I can say is that it was worth every cent I paid for it and having seen the quality now I would have happily bought it at full price. Smile

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  Reply # 146747 11-Jul-2008 13:33
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Add high-definition sound to that and it will really blow you away. Does the panny only bitstream the high-def audio or can it decode?

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  Reply # 146750 11-Jul-2008 13:38
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Welcome to the world of HiDef , once you have seen it you just don't want to go back......... ever Wink




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  Reply # 146807 11-Jul-2008 14:51
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Hi Stuzzo, The BD-30 will only bitstream high def tracks, it cannot internally decode them.  Also you must use an HDMI cable to connect to your receiver to decode the bitstreamed high def audio. 

The new BD-50 which is coming out will internally decode high def tracks as well as bitstream them.  But you must connect the player to a receiver using HDMI for bitstreaming high def or to use the internal decoding.  This is because the high def track is decoded and sent as PCM but it needs the HDMI bitrate to send to the receiever.  Therefore to use the high def tracks you must have an HDMI capable receiver.

The same goes for the PS3 and any other player.

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  Reply # 147315 13-Jul-2008 09:38
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Rhygar: ..
in The Fifth Element Remastered, these were the 3 words I uttered: OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Surprised

The picture quality just blew me away. High def was a revelation to my eyes. It was as if the fog
inside my eyes had cleared and I could see everything in perfection. It was that good. I'm sure
that if I had seen an HD-DVD movie I would have been similarly blown away, I am lauding High Def
not just Blu-Ray. I watched a few scenes in utter amazement and then put in Pirates 2 and was again
just blown away by the detail and clarity and just noticed so much more detail than on DVD, like the
sweat on the faces of the archaeologists at the beginning of The Fifth Element.
  Smile


Welcome to the HD world. As a matter of interest TFE was one of the first titles to come out on BR and was heavily criticised in the US by users saying Sony had not remastered the film and used a poor source for the BR.  In fact criticism was go great that Sony went back to remastered the movie from a new source and released a new BR version, this time with Dolby TrueHD audio. They also offered a free replacement for those who had purchased the original one.  I bought this new version (since I have a US PS3) and the PQ is outstanding.  I think the version in our local markets is from the original master.

This is the one you want

Fifth Element at Amazon

I am not sure if this version is all regions but I heard it was.

If you are keen on seeing the differences check this out (don't do this over a slow connection!)

Comparison of old and new TFE

As for audio if the BD-30 only bitstreams hi-res audio, then that means to get the full benefit of Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master HD you will need a receiver that can decode those formats. Alas they are not cheap. I think the lowest price I have seen is an Onkyo TX605 or TX606 which is over $1200 from what I recall the last time I was at HN.

Still IMHO I think DD or DTS is pretty good anyway and I would think hard about upgrading my AVR to handle hi-res audio. Just apreciate the great PQ for the moment.

Larry




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System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


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  Reply # 147454 13-Jul-2008 16:29
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I saw the Panay at JB HiFi yesterday but the price was POA.  I don't do POA.  I noticed that they had Sony BD players there for about $499 from memory.  What made you go for the higher priced Panasonic??

 

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  Reply # 147656 14-Jul-2008 09:15
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lchiu7: ...

Still IMHO I think DD or DTS is pretty good anyway and I would think hard about upgrading my AVR to handle hi-res audio. Just apreciate the great PQ for the moment.

Larry


Yeah I also think the price is still too high to justify a new receiver which will decode the lossless tracks. But the DD or DTS tracks on the Blu-Ray movies are still better than that on normal DVD's as they have a higher bitrate. I certainly noticed the difference.

If you want a list of which Blu-Ray's are region free then go here.



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  Reply # 147659 14-Jul-2008 09:21
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old3eyes:

I saw the Panay at JB HiFi yesterday but the price was POA. I don't do POA. I noticed that they had Sony BD players there for about $499 from memory. What made you go for the higher priced Panasonic??

 

Is it profile 1.1 or later??



Early Sony models are probably profile 1.0 and I would have been happy with a profile 1.0 player as I am not into watching extra's on discs.  I think early modes also tended not to bitstream DTS-MA but the BD-30 will bitstream both.  The older players are also notceably slow at starting, I have read that it can take up to 1.5 mins to get to a stage of being able to watch a movie.  The BD-30 is much faster and you should be watching in about 30 secs or so.  It is only a little bit slower than my DVD player.  The PQ is just awesome from this player and I had seen it demoed in some of the stores so I had seen it in action beforehand.  Asked what the deal was and couldn't pass it up.

Watched the whole of Fifth Element last night and it was a mind blowing experience.  I noticed a lot more detail than I had before and the picture was about as perfect as you can get. 

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  Reply # 155885 11-Aug-2008 13:34
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Hi Guys

I also have a BD 30  . Can anyone recommend a good disc to get with DTS audio .
The only ones I have so far a Dolby Digital

Our local united video hasnt got any titles with DTS

My preference is Action movies





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  Reply # 156257 12-Aug-2008 12:48
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The latest Rambo movie has a pretty good DTS-MA track.  The review at http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=737&show=review says it is reference quality.  They didn't say what the core DTS lossy track sounded like but I assume it is also pretty good.  Could be a good renter.

Does your local store have a cheap day when you can rent 8-day hire blu-rays for $1 or so?  My united video does that which is pretty cool.  They just need to start ramping up the selection.

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  Reply # 156262 12-Aug-2008 13:09
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Thanks for that 

It also seems Diehard 4 may have a DTS track .

Our United video only does overnight on Blu Ray   and Mon and Tue is $3.50 and rest of week is $7 overnight.

There is around 20 tiltles so far . I got Black Hawk Down yesterday . Very Grainy in some scences  original master possibly at fault but overall reasonable qualitiy in daylight scences

I just received by mail order the Planet Earth  BBC  set with 5 Blu Ray discs    have several nights of viewing on that now.
A quick look on Disc 1 seems to indicate exc quality

S

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