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# 243694 26-Dec-2018 11:49
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I have a sony 70" LCD and I just feel its washed out.


I was standing in one of the stores the other day and I saw the 65" and its mind blowingly bright and vibrant and perhaps a little saturated, but its TV, thats what you want along with HDR, the 4k does nothing for me 1440p is as high as I can notice a difference.

I see the KD55 OLED is $2800 so they are clearly slowly reducing in price.


I remember plasmas and their price drop, was almost over night. Im wondering if OLED will be sudden.


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  # 2150696 26-Dec-2018 12:15
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Well, last year 55" OLEDs were $2999. This year the base model Panny is under $2500.

 

At that rate (which is almost certainly not going to be sustained), it will take another 2 years. More realistically, I wouldn't be *that* surprised if 55" OLED was still hovering around $2k in 5 years' time.


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  # 2150697 26-Dec-2018 12:15
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$2999 was the benchmark last Boxing Day. This has now dropped to $2500 this year with the Panasonic OLED.

 

Australia has seen their first sub A$2k OLED this Boxing Day.

 

The NZ$ is however down which is a factor. To be completely honest I wouldn't expect to see the $1500 price point hit within the next 12 months as there isn't really a great need as they've got good LED models that are still above that price. The X9000F hasn't even hit $1500 and that's a brilliant TV since it's backlit and not edgelit.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2150698 26-Dec-2018 12:15
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I believe the rule is the price will drop about a week after one buys said TV.

Also, I think the objective of 4k is that one is not supposed to notice the difference at the standard viewing distance.




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  # 2155373 6-Jan-2019 17:29
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It will happen under one of two scenarios

 

1) More production factories open up - currently LG has the major factory to produce panels and therefore a monopoly

 

2) Time - if LG continues to be the only supplier, then it relies on costs coming down from process improvement and cost cutting

 

 

 

So I can't say when it will hit $1500, unless someone else becomes a OLED panel supplier, then iit means you just have to wait, probably a few more years

 

 


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  # 2155381 6-Jan-2019 17:51
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The next 'Big Thing' is supposedly microLED, promising the best of both OLED and LCD. Until that arrives, there is a chance OLED will command some sort of premium. I understand there is quite a high reject rate in the production process as well.
You'll be at the price point you reference when TCL and Veon start selling them.




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  # 2155568 7-Jan-2019 09:35
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LG announced new OLED TVs today in Vegas, including bigger TVs and 8K versions, which may help push down the prices of existing models in the near future. 


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  # 2155614 7-Jan-2019 10:10
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Historically the prices in NZ of the 2018 models will be heavily discounted in late April and May as the retailers get ready for the release of the 2019 models in mid-2019.

 
 
 
 




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  # 2156777 9-Jan-2019 09:27
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I saw the Bravia KD55" at $2500 prior to Xmas, its back up to $3500 ha.

Size really isnt important to me, but 55" does look nice from about 8 ft back. 70", a bit much.

I guess its just a waiting game.


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  # 2156812 9-Jan-2019 09:59
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I don't know what tv op has but washed out is not really a problem vs oled. I suspect its the source, the tv settings, and the wow factor of visiting a TV shop.




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  # 2156822 9-Jan-2019 10:12
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When I picked up a LG C8 OLED TV a couple of months ago, I struggled with choosing between the 65 and 55. Money wasn't a consideration in this - I kept reminding myself that I was looking at ideal 4k sample content in the store, and when I get the TV home, the source content was going to be a mixture of sky channels, Netflix, lightbox etc, and a lot of that was going to be of fairly marginal quality. A bigger screen was just going to remind how crappy a lot of our content is (ie, a lot more compression artifacts and more washed out than the content you'll see playing in store).

 

In the end I went with the 55 inch version, and I'm really happy with it. Also seems a hell of a lot bigger when you get it home and it's not surrounded by heaps other huge TVs.

 

I'm sure the quality of our content will improve over time, and hopefully by the time I get my next TV, I'll be able to jump up to the next size without jeopardizing picture viewing quality...


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  # 2157219 9-Jan-2019 19:20
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Also seems a hell of a lot bigger when you get it home and it's not surrounded by heaps other huge TVs.

 

 

 

 

Sadly they seem to shrink over time...


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Still painfully rocking a 42" 1080p LCD from 2007.

My PS4 Pro and Apple TV wants to output 4k badly.

Latest must have spec is HDMI 2.1 which offers 4K high frame rate and 8k support.

Will wait for a tv with HDMI 2.1 since surely the next PlayStation or Xbox will support that.

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cooljoo: Still painfully rocking a 42" 1080p LCD from 2007.

My PS4 Pro and Apple TV wants to output 4k badly.

Latest must have spec is HDMI 2.1 which offers 4K high frame rate and 8k support.

Will wait for a tv with HDMI 2.1 since surely the next PlayStation or Xbox will support that.

HDMI 2.0a is 4k (from memory), HDMI2.1 is 8K.

I would guess, being that the mainstream hardware for 8k (wifi6, 10GbE networking, thunderbolt 3 and the like) are at least most of the year away, 8K wont be mainstream this year.




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  # 2157632 10-Jan-2019 15:11
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cooljoo: Still painfully rocking a 42" 1080p LCD from 2007.

My PS4 Pro and Apple TV wants to output 4k badly.

Latest must have spec is HDMI 2.1 which offers 4K high frame rate and 8k support.

Will wait for a tv with HDMI 2.1 since surely the next PlayStation or Xbox will support that.


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  # 2157645 10-Jan-2019 15:31
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cooljoo: Still painfully rocking a 42" 1080p LCD from 2007.

My PS4 Pro and Apple TV wants to output 4k badly.

Latest must have spec is HDMI 2.1 which offers 4K high frame rate and 8k support.

Will wait for a tv with HDMI 2.1 since surely the next PlayStation or Xbox will support that.

HDMI 2.0a is 4k (from memory), HDMI2.1 is 8K.

I would guess, being that the mainstream hardware for 8k (wifi6, 10GbE networking, thunderbolt 3 and the like) are at least most of the year away, 8K wont be mainstream this year.

 

 

 

HDMI 2.1 supports 4k 120hz with 4:4:4

 

Or otherwise supports 8k 60hz 

 

Also supports e-ARC and VRR/Adaptive Sync


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