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Uber Geek

#2920750 31-May-2022 09:50

Gemini: I detest black crush (loss of shadow detail). It bothers me more than blacks not being "true" black or colours being too vivid. Have they solved the black crush issues with earlier OLEDs?

Yes, from 2019 onwards most OLED's show no signs of black crush.

Panasonic 65GZ1000, Onkyo RZ730, Atmos 5.1.2, AppleTV 4K, Nest Mini's, PS5, PS3, MacbookPro, iPad Pro, Apple watch SE2, iPhone 15+

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JPNZ

1199 posts

Uber Geek

#2920942 31-May-2022 14:12

FWIW I asked my commercial manager at Harvey Norman about the LG C2 range, now I know I mentioned a page or so back that there was no sign of price increases on the C1 range nearly 12 months apart BUT the C2, G2 are more expensive than the 2021 C1, G1 ranges. In the vicinity of 15-25% from what I'm seeing.

I don't know whether 2022 models will get back down to the prices of the 2021 models but if I had to guess I'd say not quite. Keep that in mind if your looking at the very few OLED 2021 models that are on clearance currently

Panasonic 65GZ1000, Onkyo RZ730, Atmos 5.1.2, AppleTV 4K, Nest Mini's, PS5, PS3, MacbookPro, iPad Pro, Apple watch SE2, iPhone 15+

tn71

6 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2924943 10-Jun-2022 21:56

Hi all. Is there a general agreement on most reliable TV brand?

Our lovely daughter threw a toy at our ten year old 64" plasma that was very reliable up to this point (if anyone has use for the parts on a PS64D8000 TV, let me know), and insurance will provide a TV replacement up to $1900. I don't want to spend more money (in case she throws again) which puts OLEDs out of the picture, and I really just care about reliability, minimal glare, and best brightness/contrast for day viewing (I'm not even interested in 4K or the TV being smart as we'll just be using Chromecast). We're limited to Noel Leeming which limits it to Samsung, Sony, LG (because we want a 55-65" TV). What are people's thoughts on the three brands? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.

NinjaSZ

35 posts

Geek

#2925116 11-Jun-2022 09:12

I feel your pain, sorry for your loss. Sony Bravia XR-55X90J 55" $1797 at Noel Leeming if you're happy with 55". I just picked up the 75" of this TV over Queen's birthday. Looked into OLEDs as well but way too much potential for direct sunlight hitting the TV. Found this X90J is highly regarded amongst LEDs and is a 2021 model so not paying the early adopter prices.

Gemini

429 posts

Ultimate Geek

#2925181 11-Jun-2022 10:24

tn71:
Hi all. Is there a general agreement on most reliable TV brand?

Our lovely daughter threw a toy at our ten year old 64" plasma that was very reliable up to this point (if anyone has use for the parts on a PS64D8000 TV, let me know), and insurance will provide a TV replacement up to $1900. I don't want to spend more money (in case she throws again) which puts OLEDs out of the picture, and I really just care about reliability, minimal glare, and best brightness/contrast for day viewing (I'm not even interested in 4K or the TV being smart as we'll just be using Chromecast). We're limited to Noel Leeming which limits it to Samsung, Sony, LG (because we want a 55-65" TV). What are people's thoughts on the three brands? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.

X90j is a well regarded TV and there are lots of 10+ year old Sony LCD TVs still going strong.
Was $1900 supposed to be replacement cost? OLED while not what you want, is widely considered to be the modern replacement for plasma with true blacks etc and it's what plasma owners are most likely to buy as a replacement. So I would suggest enough money to buy a 65" oled is replacement cost. That amount of money should get you a 65" x95j or samsung qn90 which are better again than the x90j

NinjaSZ

35 posts

Geek

#2925189 11-Jun-2022 10:50

An X90J weakness is apparently its reflections, so may not meet your standards in terms of minimal glare.

tn71

6 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2925196 11-Jun-2022 11:10

Thanks everyone. I am thinking that I'll go with a Sony; either a X85J or X90J model. Noel Leeming don't seem to have the X90J in 65" which is why I might need to go for the X85J model. I understand that Sony LEDs generally last longer too??

I completely agree that the fair replacement of a plasma (especially this plasma model!) would be an OLED. I mentioned this to them, but they weren't really interested in my thoughts; either way, I wasn't going to push it as for me it's still a win. $1900 is simply the cost of the TV they have recommended as a replacement ( Samsung 65" AU9000 ). I'm able to simply choose which TV I actually want and just pay the difference (or lose the difference if it's a cheaper option). The cost is likely related to what the insurance company pays, not retail value.

Thanks for the reflection point - my biggest want is a reliable TV, and if I have to close the curtains every now and again to achieve that, then that's what I just have to do. Good to know about it's reflection flaw though.

Gemini

429 posts

Ultimate Geek

#2925202 11-Jun-2022 11:24

tn71:

Thanks everyone. I am thinking that I'll go with a Sony; either a X85J or X90J model. Noel Leeming don't seem to have the X90J in 65" which is why I might need to go for the X85J model. I understand that Sony LEDs generally last longer too??

I completely agree that the fair replacement of a plasma (especially this plasma model!) would be an OLED. I mentioned this to them, but they weren't really interested in my thoughts; either way, I wasn't going to push it as for me it's still a win. $1900 is simply the cost of the TV they have recommended as a replacement ( Samsung 65" AU9000 ). I'm able to simply choose which TV I actually want and just pay the difference (or lose the difference if it's a cheaper option). The cost is likely related to what the insurance company pays, not retail value.

Thanks for the reflection point - my biggest want is a reliable TV, and if I have to close the curtains every now and again to achieve that, then that's what I just have to do. Good to know about it's reflection flaw though.

I'd go with Sony 55x90j or 65x85j then

If Panasonic had been an option the JX900 would have been the in between option. Better than x85j, not as good as x90j

NinjaSZ

35 posts

Geek

#2925203 11-Jun-2022 11:25

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-x90j-vs-sony-x85j/21562/21695?usage=1&threshold=0.10 comparing the X85J and X90J.

Gemini

429 posts

Ultimate Geek

#2925209 11-Jun-2022 11:39

Oh and you can't find a 65x90j because they are all gone. J is 2021 model year and they are being cleared for the 2022 Ks.

So might pay to check stock levels on 65x85j because that NL price may be a clearance price

tn71

6 posts

Wannabe Geek

#2925214 11-Jun-2022 11:47

Haha, you're right. Just before you commented I called Noel Leeming and they said the X90J isn't available in 65" anymore which only leaves the X85J. Looking at the comparison there isn't too much difference, and I probably don't want to pay new year model prices to upgrade, so I think that just answered my question. I could drop the size, but it doesn't make sense financially (they won't reimburse me for the price difference) and I'd prefer the bigger size anyway.

Thanks for everyone's input.

bfginger

1237 posts

Uber Geek

#2925872 13-Jun-2022 07:35

Hi all. Is there a general agreement on most reliable TV brand?

In traditional order: Panasonic (which excludes the "Android" models from China Panasonic NZ currently rebadges), Sony, LG, Samsung, Philips, anyone else. There shouldn't a great deal of difference between Sony and LG in reliability.

OLED panels' risk of burn in, sunburn and wear down is could be an issue over the longer term. They're not something you should hope to run like new after many years of heavy use.