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  #2503045 11-Jun-2020 16:22
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Handle9: Atmos is really a nice to have - I wouldn't use it unless I upgraded speakers. That won't happen in the near future.

I don't plan on buying another receiver for 5-7 years (I've had my onkyo for 7 years) so would prefer to buy something with a bit of head room.

 

I would look at the RXV-685 then; for the little bit extra it price adds on over the RXV-585, you get better room correction (YPAO RSC), as well as Zone 2 pre-outs, and an extra HDMI port in. The extra 10wpc makes zero effective difference really.

 

Another option: you could get a similar feature-set cheaper in an Onkyo or Pioneer AVR (minus the MusicCast of course), even though they are not as well regarded as Yamaha. I paid $697 NZD for my Onkyo NR-676 which does pretty much all the same stuff as the RXV-685, bar 4k up-scaling (which is a useless feature IMO, your TV or media player will do it better). The room correction is definitely not the greatest, and the DAC will be a matter of taste (a single AKM AK4458 vs 4 x unnamed Burr-Browns), but really, for critical listening, you probably shouldn't be looking at AVRs. Up to you whether the price difference is worth it; the current model is the Onkyo NR-696, but even the next step up to the higher quality RZ series could be possible for a similar sort of price as the RXV-685.

 

Anything above sounds like you will be paying more for features you may or may not use. The only reason you would really want to go higher at this time is to add on pre-outs for external amps, process more channels, or better room correction software. It looks like the 2020 AVRs are shaping up to be the bare minimum number of HDMI 2.1 ports slapped onto them to call themselves "8k ready" over this year, so most people will get better value trying to get a current AVR at a discount and syndicating HDMI 2.1 devices on an appropriate TV.

 

 

It's a fairly reasonable price bump from the 585 to the 685. Is the better room correction $250 worth? An extra HDMI and Zone 2 Preouts are nice but unlikely to get used.


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  #2503064 11-Jun-2020 17:16
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Handle9:

 

It's a fairly reasonable price bump from the 585 to the 685. Is the better room correction $250 worth? An extra HDMI and Zone 2 Preouts are nice but unlikely to get used.

 

 

Nawh, probably not $250 worth on that strength alone TBH; it's a little bit less difference here ($200, which is still not the $100 difference that I thought it was originally).

 

This person here seemed to think RSC made a noticeable improvement, but I think its going to be one of those things where YMMV depending on how good your room is to start with really, plus the capability of your speakers etc.


 
 
 
 


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  #2503239 11-Jun-2020 21:36
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If you're in the Middle East and already invested in the Yamaha eco-system, then the obvious choice would be the RX-V585 / 685.

 

The 685 does have a better GUI, a better remote, Zone 2 (if you ever go down that path in the future - heck you can wire for ATMOS 5.1.2 AND Zone 2, and switch between the two options), pre-outs, composite to HDMI up-conversion (for connecting something like a PS2 or Nintendo Wii), more HDMI inputs / 1 x more mirrored output, better room correction and going on Yamaha's history, a higher likelihood to get firmware updates for new music streaming services than the lower models.




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  #2503257 11-Jun-2020 22:57
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I didn't consider firmware support. Has Yamaha got a track record of supporting more expensive models for longer?


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  #2503441 12-Jun-2020 10:16
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They support it for years and years (see Spotify API updates etc), but the entry level kit won't necessarily get new features (like new streaming services added down the track). My assumption is this would be related to memory / processing power.


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  #2503637 12-Jun-2020 13:59
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Just so everyone knows that EARC has been enabled for the rxv685 with a firmware update. Possibly other models too. Glad I can keep when I get a hdmi 2.1 tv and source for it



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  #2503683 12-Jun-2020 15:10
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Dunnersfella:

They support it for years and years (see Spotify API updates etc), but the entry level kit won't necessarily get new features (like new streaming services added down the track). My assumption is this would be related to memory / processing power.



Ok, thanks, that makes sense.

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