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#272815 17-Jul-2020 13:45
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I'm going to buy a 4k TV and will be using it for gaming among other things. I've narrowed it down to two models:

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/TVPHS620255/Philips-55PUT6133-55-4K-HDR-Smart-TV 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/TVSSM67055/Samsung-55AJ670U-55-UHD-Commercial-TV

 

I'm not the most knowledgeable on this topic but is the more expensive Samsung TV really worth the extra money? What extra features am I getting.


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  #2524769 17-Jul-2020 14:09
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Neither?

 

I'll let more knowledgeable GZers talk to the specs, but:

 

- Philips TV support in New Zealand had been pretty poor historically (not sure about current state). I've been burnt before and wouldn't touch that again. Especially considering Philips is just a licenced brand name in TVs.

 

- The Samsung unit is a commercial display for use in office, hotel rooms etc. Gaming isn't what it's made for.





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  #2524778 17-Jul-2020 14:14
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It's mostly about the difference between a normal UHD display, backlit from the sides only (the sort of models you've linked), vs QLED / NanoCell which has multiple zones of lighting behind the display facing towards you, so different zones of the display can be independently dimmed or brightened to give better color depth and blacker blacks, vs OLED which is all individually lit pixels and giving the truest blacks.  If you don't care much about picture quality then the ones you've linked are fine.  Some content might look a bit washed out on them.  QLED and NanoCell is a good mid-range, especially at the larger screen sizes.  OLED is for if colour and blacks quality is paramount to you, but there's some things QLED/NanoCell do better than OLED such as a wider viewing angle.


 
 
 
 


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  #2524839 17-Jul-2020 16:21
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I'd agree with Kookoo, neither of those are a good option, and especially not commercial TVs.

 

We can hand out random recommendations that echo what will fit most people, but it would be helpful to have an idea of:

 

  • max budget
  • what you are intending to use it for/what devices you are planning to use it with to display content ie. streaming box, gaming consoles, onboard apps, AirPlay etc
  • distance between where the screen will go and your main viewing position and max size of the

The first thing will ultimately determine how big/good of a TV you can buy; the second thing will determine what sort of features you should be looking at; the third thing what size of a TV would work for your space.

 

I'd also go and look at demo TVs in-store to give you an idea of different visual technologies in play ie. OLED vs LCD (of which both QLED and NanoCell is the latter) and what the picture quality differences look like between a cheap TV and an expensive TV.

 

Beware, this is not a great time of year to buy, as the new 2020 models have just started hitting the stores (thus at the peak of their pricing) and the 2019 models have been mostly cleared out.


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  #2525047 18-Jul-2020 08:27
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The Panasonic LCDs have tended to have really good gaming response times. 

 

This isn't the best time of the year to buy a TV. After they start discounting them (late November or Boxing Day) is better. 

 

OLEDs are not great at handling long static image displays as there is some burn in risk. People unaffected swear it isn't a problem.


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  #2525054 18-Jul-2020 08:44
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gehenna: OLED is for if colour and blacks quality is paramount to you, but there's some things QLED/NanoCell do better than OLED such as a wider viewing angle.

 



 

Are you sure about this?

 

I was under the impression that due to its emissive technology OLED was less affected by viewing angle than any LCD technology. The quantum dot tech of QLED/Nanocell makes them better than ordinary backlit LCD in this respect but still not as good as OLED.

 

I have both OLED and QLED TVs. QLED is observably more affected than OLED.





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  #2525063 18-Jul-2020 09:50
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Dingbatt:

gehenna: OLED is for if colour and blacks quality is paramount to you, but there's some things QLED/NanoCell do better than OLED such as a wider viewing angle.





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I was under the impression that due to its emissive technology OLED was less affected by viewing angle than any LCD technology. The quantum dot tech of QLED/Nanocell makes them better than ordinary backlit LCD in this respect but still not as good as OLED.


I have both OLED and QLED TVs. QLED is observably more affected than OLED.


That is correct. Self emissive designs are superior in this regard. For LCD though, it varies depending on the underlying panel type, rather than anything to do with the quantum dot layer tech AKA QLED, NanoCell etc

Samsung's higher range use VA panels, which have superior contrast but poor viewing angles, and their lower range, as well as LG's LCD range, use IPS.

Samsung and Sony have been applying a layer to their more recent models to increase viewing angle on their VA panels, but at the expense of contrast.

The OLED vs. LCD argument comes down to cost, brightness, and edge use cases where burn-in is a concern.

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