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Mattv
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  #250810 26-Aug-2009 20:29
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Ok - sounds as if the dish will be fine. Next question is can your tuner card provide LNB power which it seems it does so we'll assume so for now.

Next is the LNB and transponder settings. Obviously this is a bit different in OZ but a quick google it seems similar to NZ. Below is the text from the DVBViewer transponder .ini file I have edited and now use for SKY and Freeview in NZ from Optus D1

 [SATTYPE]
1=1600
2=1 Optus D1 NZ
3=1
4=10750
5=10750
6=11800

[DVB]
0=12
1=12394,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
2=12421,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
3=12456,H,22500,34,1,|Freeview
4=12483,H,22500,34,1,|Freeview
5=12519,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
6=12546,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
7=12581,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
8=12608,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
9=12644,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
10=12671,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
11=12707,H,22500,34,1,|SNZ
12=12734,H,22500,34,1,| SNZ

the [SATTYPE] portion sets out the LNB settings, particularly 4,5 and 6 being the important numbers. It seems in Oz most common LOF freq is 10700 (instead of 10750 here) but you might also try 11300. The [DVB] part sets out the transponder freqs to scan. Below is an example you may want to try.

[SATTYPE]
1=1561
2=1 Optus C1 test
3=1
4=10700
5=10700
6=11800
[DVB]
0=20
1=12305,H,30000,34
2=12358,H,27800,34
3=12367,V,27800,34
4=12398,H,27800,34
5=12407,V,30000,23
6=12438,H,27800,34
7=12448,V,27800,34
8=12478,H,27800,34
9=12487,V,27800,34
10=12518,H,27800,34
11=12527,V,30000,34
12=12558,H,27800,34
13=12567,V,27800,34
14=12598,H,27800,34
15=12607,V,27800,34
16=12638,H,27800,34
17=12647,V,27800,34
18=12689,H,27800,34
19=12692,V,28650,12
20=12728,V,24450,12

Copy it and paste it to a new "notepad" document then save it as 1561.ini in your /DVBViewer/transponders/ folder. Then try scanning it in DVBViewer to see how you go. I have just taken the freqs from the current DVBViewer Optus C1 .ini so if it works partially you may want to go to http://www.lyngsat.com/optusc1.html and update it. If it doesn't work first time change both instances of 10700 to 11300 and try again.

I'm no expert with this stuff but hopefully that may help a bit.

tbergman
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  #250939 27-Aug-2009 10:27
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Thanks for this, Matt.

I'll pull the HTPC apart this weekend and start from scratch. I'll also check the rest of this post and make sure NewCS and Acamd are setup and ready to go.

tbergman
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  #252503 2-Sep-2009 11:14
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Here we go.

As I've said, I'm going to have a go at setting this up this weekend.

If at all possible, could someone please check my NewCS and AcamD configs and advise if there are any errors.


Cheers all,

Tony


NewCS

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<newCSconfig>
 <globals>
  <listening-ip>x.x.x.x</listening-ip>
 </globals>
 <readers name="Standard Phoenix on PC">
  <device>
   <name>Phoenix on Com1</name>
   <type>phoenix</type>
   <mhz>357</mhz>
   <node>COM1</node>
   <parity>odd</parity>
   <reset>normal</reset>
   <export>No</export>
   <enabled>Yes</enabled>
   <blocksa>No</blocksa>
   <blockua>No</blockua>
   <blockga>No</blockga>
   <blockC0>Yes</blockC0>
   <crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
   <PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
   <carddetect>Yes</carddetect>
   <newcamd_port>15000</newcamd_port>
   <autosid>Yes</autosid>
   <pincode>0000</pincode>
   <Seca-PPV>No</Seca-PPV>
   <priority>round</priority>
  </device>
 </readers>
 <radegastserver>
   <enabled>No</enabled>
   <port>10001</port>
   <allow>
    <hostname>localhost</hostname>
   </allow>
 </radegastserver>
 <cache>
   <emm>20</emm>
   <ecm>-1</ecm>
 </cache>
 <httpd>
  <server>
   <port>8080</port>
   <enabled>No</enabled>
  </server>
  <user>
   <name>newcs</name>
   <password>newcs</password>
   <accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
  </user>
 </httpd>
 <debug>
   <password>NewCSpwd</password>
   <mode>simple</mode>
   <level>internal</level>
   <type>all</type>
   <output>console</output>
   <tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
   <tcp_options>normal,init</tcp_options>
 </debug>
 <newcamdserver>
   <enabled>Yes</enabled>
   <name>newcs</name>
   <deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
   <user>
    <name>xxxx</name>
    <password>xxxx</password>
    <port>15000</port>
    <au>on</au>
    <sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
    <readers>
     <allow>Phoenix on Com1</allow>
    </readers>
    <spider>No</spider>
                        <cardlevel>1</cardlevel>
   </user>
 </newcamdserver>
</newCSconfig>


AcamD 6.03


#
# Comment lines can start with # or ;
#
# every client line starts with the client name, followed by some arguments:
# 'hostname' is the name of the server
# 'port' is the port on the server
# 'emm' is a flag to allow EMM transfers to the server
# (0=disabled 1=enabled)
# 'caid' (optional) caid on which this client should work
# 'mask' (optional) mask for caid e.g. caid=1700 mask=FF00 would allow
# anything between 1700 & 17FF.
# Default is 1700 & FF00. If only caid is given mask is FFFF.
# You may give multiple caid/mask values comma separated
# (e.g. 1702,1722,0d0c/ff00).
# 'username' is the login username
# 'password' is the login password
#
# newcamd client
# 'cfgkey' is the config key (28bytes)
#
# newcamd client
# 'providerid(s)' add provider id's for filtering 0000006A,0000006D
#
# radegast client
# No EMM support
#
# gbox client
# UDP localhost only, default ports, No EMM support
#
# gboxn client
# servername, serverport, emm, [caid/mask], serverpassword, pcname, pcport, pcpassword, free text
#
# camd35 client
# UDP protocol
#
#radegast:192.168.7.54:10001:0/0000/0000
#gbox:0.0.0.0:0:0/0000/0000
#camd35:192.168.7.54:24110:1/0000/0000:username:password
newcamd:10.1.1.3:15000:1/0100/ffff:xxxx:xxxx:0102030405060708091011121314
#newcamd:192.168.7.54:34001:1/0100/ff00:username:password:0102030405060708091011121314:0000006A
#emubox03:192.168.7.54:10000:0/0000/0000
#gboxn:192.168.7.54:6600:0/0000/0000:AA34BB78:192.168.7.53:6601:AA34BB71:Server 1




argo

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  #253191 4-Sep-2009 14:49
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Hi Tony see my comments inserted (sorry posting has stripped away some of the characters)
It looks good to me. Is this for newcsVer:1.6?

tbergman: Here we go.

As I've said, I'm going to have a go at setting this up this weekend.

If at all possible, could someone please check my NewCS and AcamD configs and advise if there are any errors.


Cheers all,

Tony


NewCS



 
  x.x.x.x        (You can delete the global, not seen this used)
 
 
  
   Phoenix on Com1
   phoenix
   357
   COM1
   odd
   normal
   No
   Yes
   No
   No
   No
   Yes
   No
   No           
   Yes          (might want to turn this "off")
   15000      (so your client will look to Port: 15000)
   Yes
   0000
   No
   round        (may also want to try "fifo")
  
 
 
   No
   10001
   
    localhost
   
 
 
   20
   -1
 
 
  
   8080       (allows you to login to newcs on port 8080, eg: http://10.1.1.3:8080 admin, root psswd)
   No
  
  
   newcs
   newcs
   admin
  
 
 
   NewCSpwd
   simple
   internal
   all
   console
   1001
   normal,init
 
 
   Yes
   newcs
   01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14  
   
    xxxx
    xxxx
    15000                  (this is for reverse login - server to client ie: newcs to acamd, not needed)
    on
    off
    
     Phoenix on Com1
    
    No
                        1
   
 



AcamD 6.03


#
# Comment lines can start with # or ;     (so anything with a # in front is ignored)
#
newcamd:10.1.1.3:15000:1/0100/ffff:xxxx:xxxx:0102030405060708091011121314
(so newcs will be running from a box at IP: 10.1.1.3 and as in your newcs file correctly looking at port: 15000. You could also use 'localhost:15000' if everythng is running on the same PC.
PS: Not sure about the EMM flag set at '1'. All the examples from NZ show this as '0')

argo

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  #253197 4-Sep-2009 15:01
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If anyone is interested in using Sun VirtualBox as a way of running linux NewCS in a Win7 host, I am starting a topic on my blog here:
 http://argoramble.blogspot.com/2009/09/newcs-on-sun-virtualbox.html

The advantages are that you can continue updating the NewCS application as it is only coded for Linux now.

tbergman
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  #253203 4-Sep-2009 15:10
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Thanks Argo.

NewCS 1.65. Anything after that is for Linux.

tbergman
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  #253206 4-Sep-2009 15:21
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argo: If anyone is interested in using Sun VirtualBox as a way of running linux NewCS in a Win7 host, I am starting a topic on my blog here:
 http://argoramble.blogspot.com/2009/09/newcs-on-sun-virtualbox.html

The advantages are that you can continue updating the NewCS application as it is only coded for Linux now.


I just went to have a look at your blog.  There's nothing there yet.



argo

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#253257 4-Sep-2009 16:50
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tbergman:
argo: If anyone is interested in using Sun VirtualBox as a way of running linux NewCS in a Win7 host, I am starting a topic on my blog here:
http://argoramble.blogspot.com/2009/09/newcs-on-sun-virtualbox.html

The advantages are that you can continue updating the NewCS application as it is only coded for Linux now.


I just went to have a look at your blog. There's nothing there yet.


...sure there is..."Works in progress..." Wink

Brain to Blog process starting tonight

sbiddle
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  #253266 4-Sep-2009 17:07
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Can anybody clarify if the Sky EMM update issues still exist with the newer versions of NewCS?


argo

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  #253285 4-Sep-2009 17:59
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sbiddle: Can anybody clarify if the Sky EMM update issues still exist with the newer versions of NewCS?



With reference to this question - did those that were having this problem try setting their cardclient.conf EMM flag to enable ('1')?

e.g: newcamd:localhost:15000:1/0100/ffff:xxxx:xxxx:0102030405060708091011121314

RustyGonad
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  #253355 5-Sep-2009 09:41
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Using a combo of CCcam/NewCS with Acamd 6.10, it will send EMM updates through to somewhere - whether or not they work is another thing. Kinda hard to find out when it takes over 6 weeks before you know...

It certainly doesn't correctly read and interpret the date on the entitlements... Based on this I'd suggest they're not working yet.

If you turn on EMM without knowing what your doing all it will do is cause glitches. I'd strongly suggest leaving them off until someone can actually confirm they work for NZ. Even if they do, they slow things down enough at the moment to make it not worth it...

argo

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  #253521 6-Sep-2009 11:45
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argo:
tbergman:
argo: If anyone is interested in using Sun VirtualBox as a way of running linux NewCS in a Win7 host, I am starting a topic on my blog here:
http://argoramble.blogspot.com/2009/09/newcs-on-sun-virtualbox.html

The advantages are that you can continue updating the NewCS application as it is only coded for Linux now.


I just went to have a look at your blog. There's nothing there yet.


...sure there is..."Works in progress..." Wink

Brain to Blog process starting tonight


Done - tiny bit of fine tuning to go, but 99% is there and correct. Please leave a comment if I've made a blue anywhere.

Cheers.

tbergman
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  #253959 8-Sep-2009 09:09
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Mattv: Ok - sounds as if the dish will be fine. Next question is can your tuner card provide LNB power which it seems it does so we'll assume so for now.


Just another question,

The DVB-S cards I'm using both have LNB in and LNB out connectors.

To have both on the same dish, can I connect the cable to LNB in on the first card then connect the LNB out from there to the LNB in on the second card?  Or do I need to use a splitter and have them on seperate cables, so to speak?

I ask because of the 18V to the LNB.

argo

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  #254883 10-Sep-2009 21:21
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Just another question,

The DVB-S cards I'm using both have LNB in and LNB out connectors.

To have both on the same dish, can I connect the cable to LNB in on the first card then connect the LNB out from there to the LNB in on the second card?  Or do I need to use a splitter and have them on seperate cables, so to speak?

I ask because of the 18V to the LNB.


Lots of good info on this forum: http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/forum/index.php/topic,661.0.html

From reading above it would seem safest bet would be to use an All Ports Power Pass Splitter. Perhaps this functionality is built into the card itself (LNB-out is power isolated to LNB-in)? Does the Twinhan manual give a clue?

argo

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  #255082 11-Sep-2009 20:25
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If looking for a way to test your NewCS Server other than via ACamd/DVBViewer (in other words using it in its final config/operation), I have written up a method using CCcam (in client mode) here:
http://argoramble.blogspot.com/2009/09/testing-newcs-in-virtualbox.html

This will show NewCS in action working as a card server, passing data through to a test client.

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