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Topic # 56561 17-Jan-2010 09:46
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Just proves how much Lexicon really likes the Oppo BDP-83, they copied it and sell it for $3500.00USD 

The inside is exactly the same, they just made a new case, wow thats alot of money for a case!
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/01/16/lexicon-busted-passing-oppo-off-as-a-3500-blu-ray-player/


Oppo on the Inside, Lexicon on the Outside
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/high-definition-dvd-players-hd-dvd-blu-ray/lexicon-bd-30-blu-ray-oppo-clone/oppo-inside-lexicon-outside-1

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  Reply # 290671 17-Jan-2010 10:15
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I recall several no-brand TV models having Philips internals back in the day when I worked at a retail store.

A lot of TV "manufacturers" use panels from Samsung or one of the other big producers today but to be fair the technology used to get the image onto the screen can make quite a big difference.

Just goes to show though what a rip off products can be with buyers either bamboozled by techno terms or conned into believing quality comes from a name badge on a product, $600 Monster HDMI cable anyone.....

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  Reply # 290692 17-Jan-2010 13:19
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Marmel, I think you're misunderstanding what 70mm was saying. Lexicon didn't use any different hardware whatsoever, they took an Oppo blu-ray player, made a new case, and dropped the Oppo player in it - chassis and all!

Absolutely disgusting. It's like that cable teardown I saw one time where someone's cat ripped apart a $300 power cable, only to find that internally it was made of about $6 worth of materials.




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  Reply # 290701 17-Jan-2010 13:58
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Kyanar: Marmel, I think you're misunderstanding what 70mm was saying. Lexicon didn't use any different hardware whatsoever, they took an Oppo blu-ray player, made a new case, and dropped the Oppo player in it - chassis and all!

Absolutely disgusting. It's like that cable teardown I saw one time where someone's cat ripped apart a $300 power cable, only to find that internally it was made of about $6 worth of materials.


I understood what was being said and I read the article.

I also think it is disgusting. I was just stating another similar practice that goes on, not quite as bad as what Lexicon does but a little misleading all the same.


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  Reply # 290706 17-Jan-2010 14:27
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Oh right. Sorry, I read your post as thinking that they were doing the same thing.

Anyway, what you're referring to in that post is normal. There's not a huge number of manufacturers of panels, and everyone purchases OEM panels from them. You can see a list on Wikipedia. You'll find that some of the big names don't actually make panels. Phillips is among the most notable for not making displays.

OEM manufacturing isn't really misleading. DSE panels are... er, Samsung I think... and are considerably cheaper as an example.




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  Reply # 290708 17-Jan-2010 14:43
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I think it was a Bond & Bond in house brand (Black Diamond?) that was selling a unit with Philips internals. we found out from the service agent, I think it was Next electronics.

I'm not sure how important it is these days anyway because I think there is more technology involved in actually getting the picture displayed correctly on a panel so even if two LCD's have the same panel the picture could be quite different depending on how good the processor(s) are.

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  Reply # 290725 17-Jan-2010 16:42
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I had a phillips AV receiver years ago, looked into one of the hifi shops in wellington, exact same unit with a marantz badge on it, a couple of hundred more expensive then the phillips. I take it phillips might own marantz

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  Reply # 290726 17-Jan-2010 16:45
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plod: I had a phillips AV receiver years ago, looked into one of the hifi shops in wellington, exact same unit with a marantz badge on it, a couple of hundred more expensive then the phillips. I take it phillips might own marantz


Yes they do.

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  Reply # 290727 17-Jan-2010 16:50
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Did, its denon-marantz that owns them now.




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