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  Reply # 322515 25-Apr-2010 00:00
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Hey guys, funny coincidence. The first of the 2010 models came into my store today. I'll give a quick run down of my impressions at the end.

To LittleDude the first of the models came in today with the rest to come in over may except for the top of the range VT20 which will be a bit later again.
The LCDs have a 4 tier range but only two come in 42" and nothing bigger than 42" in LCDs.
The L42U20 is a full HD LCD I'd expect it to be similar to the 42" S10 LCD from last year but can't confirm as I haven't seen one yet.
The L42D25 is their top LCD and it is their token LED edgelit model, they are marketing this as a backlit model but in reality it is edgelit with a row of LEDs along the top and bottom of the tv only. It has all the high end LCD features that are now expected: 100hz, 24p it also has USB recording and ISFccc calibration options.

To openmedia the only model that is THX certified is the VT20 which is the top of the range 3D model($$$), apart from the lack of the satellite tuner it looks very similar to the g20.

Review Time.
Now for some reason the first and only model I got in store was the 42U20 which is the cheapest full HD plasma. I gave it a quick eye calibration next to a 42x10 and just for laughs a samsung 40B6000. The x10 has a lot of hours on it due to it being a display model for the better part of a year but even so I was suprised to see it edged out for black level by the LED. The U20 was easily better than both and although still not kuro black(hopefully they're bringing the goods with the V series) it was the equal or better of a g10. The U20 has both a cinema and a "true cinema" mode I played with both and settled on cinema as true cinema gives you no control over colour temperature and thus you're left with nice green looking alien people. Cinema is perhaps a tiny bit red in warm setting but is still easily a more pleasing picture overall than true cinema. It easily had the LED in colour accuracy and was a little better than the x10 which I think had very accurate colours for the money anyway. This was all done in quite a dim room with just a few lights not directly facing the tvs. As expected black level suffered as soon as a light facing the tv was turned on but bright room performance looks to have improved from last years range at least.
I have no hard data to back up my opinions as this was done after work but hopefully it gives you guys an idea of what they should be like. My 2c, if this is a good representation of the range then they should be the models to beat, black level rising issue aside.




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  Reply # 325445 30-Apr-2010 22:12
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thanks for the info.

Any idea how the 42U20 LCD would compare to a Sony EX500 (also Full HD 100Hz).

A  42U20 with a new DMR-BW880 blu-ray recorder would be a pretty sweet combo I reckon!



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  Reply # 325863 2-May-2010 20:29
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Gemini: thanks for the info.

Any idea how the 42U20 LCD would compare to a Sony EX500 (also Full HD 100Hz).

A  42U20 with a new DMR-BW880 blu-ray recorder would be a pretty sweet combo I reckon!


I only briefly glanced at the LCDs at the launch as I'm very much a plasma man but if they're anything like last years I'd go for the sony all the way.  




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  Reply # 325983 3-May-2010 12:25
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The TH-P42X20Z and TH-P42U20Z are showing on the nz panasonic site now.

The overview for the X20 is clearly incorrect (placeholder?) as it mentions features that aren't part of this low-end model.

http://www.panasonic.co.nz/viera/plasma/th-p42x20z.html

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  Reply # 327129 5-May-2010 21:52
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samwooff:
Gemini: thanks for the info.

Any idea how the 42U20 LCD would compare to a Sony EX500 (also Full HD 100Hz).

A  42U20 with a new DMR-BW880 blu-ray recorder would be a pretty sweet combo I reckon!


I only briefly glanced at the LCDs at the launch as I'm very much a plasma man but if they're anything like last years I'd go for the sony all the way.  


Hey samwooff any mention of 2010 DVD recorders from Panasonic, especially Freeview certification?

Cheers 



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  Reply # 327799 7-May-2010 18:55
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There is the DMR-BW850 which is a blu ray recorder with twin freeview tuners, this is probably very similar to the one released last year.
There are also two standard DVD recorders with 250gb or 320gb HDD but no freeview.




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  Reply # 329343 12-May-2010 13:27
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samwooff: There is the DMR-BW850 which is a blu ray recorder with twin freeview tuners, this is probably very similar to the one released last year.
There are also two standard DVD recorders with 250gb or 320gb HDD but no freeview.


DMR-BW850 and DMR-XW350 are last years Freeview recorders, was hoping for some info on some new models



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  Reply # 329581 12-May-2010 23:14
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Then there are no new models lol, this was quite a common occurence at panasonic's launch night, more than one product line was just carried through from last year.




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  Reply # 330686 16-May-2010 17:46
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Does anyone know current pricing for 50" U20 and V20? I was considering a G10, will I be disappointed with a U20?



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  Reply # 330716 16-May-2010 19:12
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The models you're interested in were meant to be in store mid may but I've not seen any in my store nor heard of anyone that has them yet.
The 42" U20 looks to be at least the equal of a g10 from me viewing our store display model. The v20 I saw at the panasonic launch although unfortunately stuck in dynamic mode may have had even better blacks from memory.
From the controversy surrounding the 2009 range I'd wait til the new ones come out. I'd expect pricing to be very similar to last years prices initially so 4,000 for the v20 and about 2500 for the u20.
Hope that helps.




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  Reply # 330770 17-May-2010 00:43
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So, probably much better to wait for the U20 rather than get an S10 now? Seem to be all that's about until the new models come in. Can't (or won't) stretch the budget to a V10.

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  Reply # 330815 17-May-2010 09:59
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The V is sooo much nicer though.
There's still a few V 50" TV's around, I saw one for under 2900 the other day.
Nice tellie... nicer than a U20.

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  Reply # 331654 18-May-2010 22:44
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I asked Panasonic for V20 pricing the other day -- here's what they said:

TH-P42V20Z = 42 inch.   RRP $2599.99            Due in stock 19/5/10
TH-P46V20Z = 46 inch.   RRP $2999.99            Due in stock 28/5/10
TH-P50V20Z = 50 inch.   RRP $3499.99            Due in stock 19/5/10
TH-P54V20Z = 54 inch.   RRP $3999.99            Due in stock 24/6/10

Hope this helps somebody!

Cheers
Kerry 

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  Reply # 331678 18-May-2010 23:32
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Damn I was hoping to see one of their THX sets appear at 42" rather than 46" or above.




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  Reply # 336091 29-May-2010 15:09
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samwooff: The models you're interested in were meant to be in store mid may but I've not seen any in my store nor heard of anyone that has them yet.
The 42" U20 looks to be at least the equal of a g10 from me viewing our store display model. The v20 I saw at the panasonic launch although unfortunately stuck in dynamic mode may have had even better blacks from memory.
From the controversy surrounding the 2009 range I'd wait til the new ones come out. I'd expect pricing to be very similar to last years prices initially so 4,000 for the v20 and about 2500 for the u20.
Hope that helps.



I've had a look at the Panasonic U series plasma's, and I have seen them side by side with the older G series. It was painfully obvious to both myself and the salesman that the new U series are significantly inferior in picture quality to the older G series. Indeed, even the new budget X series has better black levels and better contrast. I was really keen on buying a new U series plasma, due to their low power usage.     However, having seen just how poor they are, I will be forced to either buy the older G model (if I can find one) or look at plasmas from another manufacturer.

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