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  #318881 15-Apr-2010 15:43
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more subs mean less chance of hotspots of bass in the room, and other areas with none.

Also when crossing over and sending some of the main 5 channels to the subs its better to have more so that you dont lose directionality of the bass.

The nasty systems with palm sized speakers for the 5/7 main ones and a sub that goes all the way up to 200-250Hz are really bad in that respect, but thats what people demand since woman have no taste with appliances, but with any of the mains going to the sub more directionality is needed.

Sony have seen that smallish speakers like those ones cant go deep and loud so have made a comprimise in crossing over high to the sub to allow the relativly small speakers to get a decent volume, and the sub taking over the low end. Think of them as more part of the main speakers than just a LFE channel sub like in a simpler home theater system.




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  #318892 15-Apr-2010 15:57
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gtxboyracer: Similar setup:
Sony Bravia 46" LCD KDL-46V4000 Full HD 1080P
Sony Playstation 3 FAT 40GB (with 160GB harddrive installed)
Sony MUTEKI STR-KM7000 HDMI 7.2cd AV Receiver 7x185 Watts per channel + 2x200 Watts Subwoofers Dolby Digital TrueHD/DTS, Bravia Sync
(Contains:
2x floorstanding speakers 185W
1x center 185W
2x mid left + mid right satellite speakers 185W ea
2x rear left + rear right satellite speakers 185W ea
2x Self Powered, Self contained Subwoofers 200W ea)
7.2 surround sound total power: 1695W

Playstation 3 rocks - and movies sound so great :)
Bass is immersive if desired, only con is there is no remote turn on/off for subwoofers - using an on/off button.


exactly what i have , but replace the sony bravia with a Toshiba 46" and i agree with how the system sounds, i have the older model Muteki and Sony must have listened to the complaints about the lack of remote controls for the sub woofers as the new model has a seperate unit controlling just the sub woofers. i also have MySky set up through the main unit and you can soon tell what programs are true 5.1 surround .




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  #318895 15-Apr-2010 16:03
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richms: more subs mean less chance of hotspots of bass in the room, and other areas with none.

Also when crossing over and sending some of the main 5 channels to the subs its better to have more so that you dont lose directionality of the bass.

The nasty systems with palm sized speakers for the 5/7 main ones and a sub that goes all the way up to 200-250Hz are really bad in that respect, but thats what people demand since woman have no taste with appliances, but with any of the mains going to the sub more directionality is needed.

Sony have seen that smallish speakers like those ones cant go deep and loud so have made a comprimise in crossing over high to the sub to allow the relativly small speakers to get a decent volume, and the sub taking over the low end. Think of them as more part of the main speakers than just a LFE channel sub like in a simpler home theater system.


Very interesting.  I personally prefer to just have the single subwoofer for my 5.1 surround sound setup, reason being is that the Wharfedale Diamond 9s have excellent bass drivers so no extra subwoofer is needed for this setup.  The Diamond 9.5s are just as impressive with the sub off as they are with it on.  Excellent clarity/bass and very good detail when listening through stereo and a 5.1 mix as well.



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  #318897 15-Apr-2010 16:13
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cgrew:

Very interesting.  I personally prefer to just have the single subwoofer for my 5.1 surround sound setup, reason being is that the Wharfedale Diamond 9s have excellent bass drivers so no extra subwoofer is needed for this setup.  The Diamond 9.5s are just as impressive with the sub off as they are with it on.  Excellent clarity/bass and very good detail when listening through stereo and a 5.1 mix as well.


How loud do you take it tho? Medium sized speakers like the 9.5s will not be able to get to the thx reference level on full range IME, with a little bit of highpass on them, fine up to 95ish dBA - in saying that I have not had a pair of diamonds here to see how they go, and I dont have my decent amp anymore since the long term borrow I had of it wanted it back.

The diamond is a very well built midrange speaker, but you are comparing a set of speakers that costs about what the whole sony system does, so I would expext it to be a lot better to be honest.

Still, getting 90+ dBA of even 40Hz out of something that fits into a house and doesnt have a response that is terrible is always going to be a tall ask, even subs struggle on that.




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  #318935 15-Apr-2010 16:46
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Samsung 50" Plasma
PS3 Bluray
Denon AVR 789
Wharfedale 9.6 4-way floorstanding from 28Hz
Wharfedale 9.CM 3-way centre
Wharfedale 9.1 Surrounds
Reclining plush seats

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  #318943 15-Apr-2010 16:58
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richms:
cgrew:

Very interesting.  I personally prefer to just have the single subwoofer for my 5.1 surround sound setup, reason being is that the Wharfedale Diamond 9s have excellent bass drivers so no extra subwoofer is needed for this setup.  The Diamond 9.5s are just as impressive with the sub off as they are with it on.  Excellent clarity/bass and very good detail when listening through stereo and a 5.1 mix as well.


How loud do you take it tho? Medium sized speakers like the 9.5s will not be able to get to the thx reference level on full range IME, with a little bit of highpass on them, fine up to 95ish dBA - in saying that I have not had a pair of diamonds here to see how they go, and I dont have my decent amp anymore since the long term borrow I had of it wanted it back.

The diamond is a very well built midrange speaker, but you are comparing a set of speakers that costs about what the whole sony system does, so I would expext it to be a lot better to be honest.

Still, getting 90+ dBA of even 40Hz out of something that fits into a house and doesnt have a response that is terrible is always going to be a tall ask, even subs struggle on that.


Quite loud actually, I can fill a medium sized room easily without the sub on, the Diamond 9s sound beautifull but in saying that my amplifier has a lot to do with powering them.  It's a very good amp and I made sure I got one that would power these speakers perfectly.  And yes that is dead right about the price of them but I'v been down that road buying systems that are all about the doof doof.  I prefer detail and clarity - personal preference :)

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  #318950 15-Apr-2010 17:10
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joker97: Samsung 50" Plasma
PS3 Bluray
Denon AVR 789
Wharfedale 9.6 4-way floorstanding from 28Hz
Wharfedale 9.CM 3-way centre
Wharfedale 9.1 Surrounds
Reclining plush seats


Oh very nice, I was looking at getting the 9.6s but in the end I went for the 9.5s reason being it suited my house better.  If I had a bigger house I definitly would have made the purchase lol

 
 
 

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  #318956 15-Apr-2010 17:13
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Im back to having a better amp, but this bryston is half the size of the last one I was using. Equalized 12"ers take a hell of a lot of power to get loud..




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  #318968 15-Apr-2010 17:27
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Pioneer Kuro PDP-5010FD 50" Plasma
Denon AVR 3808 CI receiver
Axiom Audio M22 Ti fronts
Focal Chorus CC 800V center
JBL crappy bookshelves from 1980 surrounds
AV123 MFW-15 sub
PS3
Xbox360
PS2
Squeezebox Touch (as of today!)




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  #318982 15-Apr-2010 18:11
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Jaxson:
Nety has the Sony amp/surround sound all in one with the little tiny golf ball speakers.  Loves it and it does hd audio as well (though you may need to have a source that can decode the hd audio to pcm first, not sure).  there are ways of getting the big sound from smaller speakers etc if that's what you're after?


Fairly sure I don't...Undecided

OK what I do have
Sony 46" Full HD 4000W
Pioneer VSX-D912 7.1 100W per channel
Rega R3 floorstanders and JBL 5.0 northridge speakers used for centre backs and sides.
Velodyne CHT-10 Sub
Media center as per sig.







Media centre PC - Case Silverstone LC16M with 2 X 80mm AcoustiFan DustPROOF, MOBO Gigabyte MA785GT-UD3H, CPU AMD X2 240 under volted, RAM 4 Gig DDR3 1033, HDD 120Gig System/512Gig data, Tuners 2 X Hauppauge HVR-3000, 1 X HVR-2200, Video Palit GT 220, Sound Realtek 886A HD (onboard), Optical LiteOn DH-401S Blue-ray using TotalMedia Theatre Power Corsair VX Series, 450W ATX PSU OS Windows 7 x64

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  #318988 15-Apr-2010 18:29
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wow no one else with a projector yet.

Panasonic PT-AX200E 720P projector at around 100"
Sony DA1200ES ES series 100Wx5.1
HTPC with freeview via mediaportal
Wharfdales all round - 9.5 front, 9CS centre, 9.1 rear and sub
all in a perfect square room, screen at one end, couch at the other.

I can also vouch for the 9.5s not needing any extra bass - they sound great in a.passthrough mode being fed by the ASUS Xoner Essence SXT Burr Brown DAC's - always lossless audio so as not to lose the midrange.

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  #319187 16-Apr-2010 07:50
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Our Dedicated 7.2 Home Theatre / Gamesroom 
MySky HDi
Panasonic TH-50PY800 50" Plasma
PS3 60GB Fat
Panasonic BD60 Blu-ray Player
Onkyo TX - SR705 Receiver
Wharfedale 9.6 Fronts
Wharfedale 9CS Centre
Wharfedale 9.6 Surrounds
Mission MHT - DS Rear Surrounds
Wharfedale PC12+ Subwoofers x2
Harmony 785
Rock-Ola Mirage 100 CD Jukebox
Original Upright Williams Stargate
48 in 1 Tabletop Cocktail Arcade Game
Guns N Roses Pinball Machine 
7 x 7 metre square room with blackout curtains, all internally wired, 20 power points stategically wired about room - you just never know.

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  #319208 16-Apr-2010 08:52
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clevedon: Our Dedicated 7.2 Home Theatre / Gamesroom 
MySky HDi
Panasonic TH-50PY800 50" Plasma
PS3 60GB Fat
Panasonic BD60 Blu-ray Player
Onkyo TX - SR705 Receiver
Wharfedale 9.6 Fronts
Wharfedale 9CS Centre
Wharfedale 9.6 Surrounds
Mission MHT - DS Rear Surrounds
Wharfedale PC12+ Subwoofers x2
Harmony 785
Rock-Ola Mirage 100 CD Jukebox
Original Upright Williams Stargate
48 in 1 Tabletop Cocktail Arcade Game
Guns N Roses Pinball Machine 
7 x 7 metre square room with blackout curtains, all internally wired, 20 power points stategically wired about room - you just never know.


Onkyo TX-SR705 very good receiver What Hi-Fi 5 stars

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  #319213 16-Apr-2010 09:15
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Love this topic. Really interesting to see what other people have.

LG 47" SL90 LED
Yamaha RX-V1900 AV Receiver
Paradigm Monitor 9 Fronts
Paradigm SA-15R-SM In ceiling Surrounds
Paradigm Monitor CC290 Centre
Paradigm DSP 3200 Subwoofer
PS3 120GB Slim
My Sky HDi
Harmony One
El cheapo Phillips DVD player - the only one that plays hindi DVD's!

All internally wired.

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  #319231 16-Apr-2010 09:56
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Interesting stuff... I have:

Sony Bravia 40" HD-Ready
HTPC
PS3
Xbox 360
Onkyo TX-SR606
Kef Speakers
 Q6C Centre
 iQ5 Fronts
 PWS 2500 Sub
 Cresta 10 Surrounds
Harmony One

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