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  #324181 28-Apr-2010 13:47
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cgrew:
johnr:
cgrew:
johnr:
craig453: so yeah i forgot to add if anyone wants my magic cabe it's for sale, cheers.


$2


$2 is about how good the coverage is worth in NZ for Voda aint it


Attacking the company I work for does not help you!

Why not share with us all your job back ground?

John


Yes but I'm not the one with the big ego tryna show off to everbody am i? 

And I work for the Department of Conservation by the way.


I'm not entirely sure what your first sentence means but I get the gist.

I think you might find if you found out a bit more about JohnR that he provides a hell of alot of help to Vodafone customers on geekzone (as well as occasionally spouting the party line :)).

The fact that he's got Vodafone  on his signature has probably got a bit more to do with accountabilty and transparency than a large ego...

 

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  #324186 28-Apr-2010 13:54
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cgrew: I started this discussion to determine whether or not the cables were any good - not to talk about how much they got talked up.


Interesting, since it seems you don't want to accept other opinions...




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  #324196 28-Apr-2010 14:05
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Handle9:
cgrew:
johnr:
cgrew:
johnr:
craig453: so yeah i forgot to add if anyone wants my magic cabe it's for sale, cheers.


$2


$2 is about how good the coverage is worth in NZ for Voda aint it


Attacking the company I work for does not help you!

Why not share with us all your job back ground?

John


Yes but I'm not the one with the big ego tryna show off to everbody am i? 

And I work for the Department of Conservation by the way.


I'm not entirely sure what your first sentence means but I get the gist.

I think you might find if you found out a bit more about JohnR that he provides a hell of alot of help to Vodafone customers on geekzone (as well as occasionally spouting the party line :)).

The fact that he's got Vodafone  on his signature has probably got a bit more to do with accountabilty and transparency than a large ego...

 


That's all very nice but that is not the reason I commented about his ego (Vodafone NZ signature) it was the unnecessary smarta**e comments he posted earlier in this thread.

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  #324197 28-Apr-2010 14:07
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cgrew:
Handle9:
cgrew:
johnr:
cgrew:
johnr:
craig453: so yeah i forgot to add if anyone wants my magic cabe it's for sale, cheers.


$2


$2 is about how good the coverage is worth in NZ for Voda aint it


Attacking the company I work for does not help you!

Why not share with us all your job back ground?

John


Yes but I'm not the one with the big ego tryna show off to everbody am i? 

And I work for the Department of Conservation by the way.


I'm not entirely sure what your first sentence means but I get the gist.

I think you might find if you found out a bit more about JohnR that he provides a hell of alot of help to Vodafone customers on geekzone (as well as occasionally spouting the party line :)).

The fact that he's got Vodafone  on his signature has probably got a bit more to do with accountabilty and transparency than a large ego...

 


That's all very nice but that is not the reason I commented about his ego (Vodafone NZ signature) it was the unnecessary smarta**e comments he posted earlier in this thread.


 
Sorry for not being able to read minds, just posts... 

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  #324199 28-Apr-2010 14:07
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mjb:
cgrew: I started this discussion to determine whether or not the cables were any good - not to talk about how much they got talked up.


Interesting, since it seems you don't want to accept other opinions...


Excuse me?  I can accept other people's opinions but I dont have to accept smarta**e comments thanks mate.

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  #324202 28-Apr-2010 14:10
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cgrew: .... but my reason for mentioning speed earlier was because if the image couldn't get from point A to point B I would of thought there would be some type of distortion in the picture??


Being digital, there would be no distortion.. but if you had a faulty cable then you'd likely see sparkling (caused by minor disruption/corruption to the data stream), choppy or jittery video/audio (caused by large disruption/corruption), or no picture at all (complete disruption of data stream).

None of those are distortion - which I would personally describe as a wavy picture with ghosting like you'd see on an analogue signal.

All of the above are from a faulty cable, not interference or data transmission speed issues.




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  #324211 28-Apr-2010 14:15
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mjb:
cgrew: .... but my reason for mentioning speed earlier was because if the image couldn't get from point A to point B I would of thought there would be some type of distortion in the picture??


Being digital, there would be no distortion.. but if you had a faulty cable then you'd likely see sparkling (caused by minor disruption/corruption to the data stream), choppy or jittery video/audio (caused by large disruption/corruption), or no picture at all (complete disruption of data stream).

None of those are distortion - which I would personally describe as a wavy picture with ghosting like you'd see on an analogue signal.

All of the above are from a faulty cable, not interference or data transmission speed issues.


Cheers distortion was the wrong word I was looking for - disruption or currupted picture is a more appropiate suggestion.

 
 
 
 


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  #324215 28-Apr-2010 14:21
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cgrew:
mjb:
cgrew: I started this discussion to determine whether or not the cables were any good - not to talk about how much they got talked up.


Interesting, since it seems you don't want to accept other opinions...


Excuse me?? I can accept other people's opinions but I dont have to accept smarta**e comments thanks mate.


I appreciate the angst, but I do believe I wasn't doing anything more than posting an observation. You seem to get quite wound up that people here don't have the same opinion as you... I can certainly see your point of view, and why you're forming the hypotheses that you have, but I feel that your reasoning is flawed due to your misunderstanding of how the technology works.

I'd be the first to admit that I don't know everything about how HDMI works, in fact, I know very little - other than basing my understanding on digital communication mediums.


FYI, this sentence, and the first 4 words of my first paragraph of this post constitute a smartass response.




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  #324220 28-Apr-2010 14:30
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mjb:
cgrew: I started this discussion to determine whether or not the cables were any good - not to talk about how much they got talked up.


Interesting, since it seems you don't want to accept other opinions...

+1

Having just read through this thread it seems to me you started it because pageweon disagreed with you and you wanted validation of an opinion you had already formed.

When is your double-blind experiment scheduled to take place? Will there be a live feed?

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  #324224 28-Apr-2010 14:32
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Meesham's guide to discussing HDMI cables:

1) Post a thread on Geekzone explaining your hypothesis about cable quality
2) Have everyone disagree with you, explaining the flaw in your reasoning
3) Ignore all reason and stick with original hypothesis, using a sample size of 1 to back up your theory
4) Have everyone again explain the flaw in your logic
5) Start attacking people when you're not able to win anyone over
6) ???
7) Profit


Now THAT'S a smart arse response...

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  #324236 28-Apr-2010 14:53
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sbiddle: I'll put the $$ on the table now and come around to your place with the pizza, beer

Regardless of where this thread ends up, can I still get a beer please?Wink



I think you will find the whole topic can be summed up with:

All passive cables do nothing to improve the picture, they simply deliver it.
A passive cable is considered to be more betterer if it will deliver the signal as close as possible to what it originated like.
Monster make very good cables
They cost way too much.
In many cases the same results can be had with substantially cheaper cables.

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  #324237 28-Apr-2010 14:58
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mjb:
cgrew:
mjb:
cgrew: I started this discussion to determine whether or not the cables were any good - not to talk about how much they got talked up.


Interesting, since it seems you don't want to accept other opinions...


Excuse me?? I can accept other people's opinions but I dont have to accept smarta**e comments thanks mate.


I appreciate the angst, but I do believe I wasn't doing anything more than posting an observation. You seem to get quite wound up that people here don't have the same opinion as you... I can certainly see your point of view, and why you're forming the hypotheses that you have, but I feel that your reasoning is flawed due to your misunderstanding of how the technology works.

I'd be the first to admit that I don't know everything about how HDMI works, in fact, I know very little - other than basing my understanding on digital communication mediums.


FYI, this sentence, and the first 4 words of my first paragraph of this post constitute a smartass response.


To the contrary I'm not getting wound up - not too sure how you can tell if someone is getting wound up over posting? 

I suppose we could go on forever but I will be the first to admit that I'm limited to how much of a smartass I can be with intillegent words as such as I'm only 21 and going by your photo your around hmm 50? Laughing



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  #324239 28-Apr-2010 15:00
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Jaxson:
sbiddle: I'll put the $$ on the table now and come around to your place with the pizza, beer

Regardless of where this thread ends up, can I still get a beer please?Wink



I think you will find the whole topic can be summed up with:

All passive cables do nothing to improve the picture, they simply deliver it.
A passive cable is considered to be more betterer if it will deliver the signal as close as possible to what it originated like.
Monster make very good cables
They cost way too much.
In many cases the same results can be had with substantially cheaper cables.


Well said Laughing

Yeah sure mate what do you drink?  Im a Speights man.

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  #324242 28-Apr-2010 15:02
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Jaxson:
Monster make very good cables
They cost way too much.
In many cases the same results can be had with substantially cheaper cables.

 
Good summary. Pass the beer :) Thread closed? Please?

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  #324245 28-Apr-2010 15:05
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cgrew:  I can be with intillegent words as such as I'm only 21 and going by your photo your around hmm 50? Laughing


What's HDMI ? Crikey looks like I'm showing my age.

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