chiefie: ALSO... once you've set up using Logitech Harmony, don't go messing up turning on and off with the normal remotes as it messes up your Logitech's remote harmony...
If/should you need an equivalent usage of your normal remotes in discrete form, use "Devices" button...
I don't even know what you mean here by "in discrete form", but I'm under the impression that using the "Device" remotes are no different to using the normal remotes. The Harmony only keeps track of states in the Activity mode.