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Topic # 85504 20-Jun-2011 21:57
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I have been looking at tv's on the dick smith website and some plasma,led,lcd tv's list that they have a built in freeview tuner and some don't. Are the ones that don't list they have built in freeview the ones that have no built in tuner at all or do they have an analog tuner?

This one says it has dvb-t(freeview):
http://dicksmith.co.nz/product/GE6046/samsung-101cm-40-quot-full-high-definition-lcd-tv-la40c550
    
This one does not list whether it has freeview or analog:
http://dicksmith.co.nz/product/GE6618/sony-bravia-46-quot-full-high-definition-led-lcd-tv-kdl46ex520

      

    

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  Reply # 483433 20-Jun-2011 22:08
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The Sony has inbuilt Freeview.. They just don't clearly mention it.

http://www.sony.co.nz/product/kdl-46ex52


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  Reply # 483437 20-Jun-2011 22:19
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bnapi:
This one does not list whether it has freeview or analog:
http://dicksmith.co.nz/product/GE6618/sony-bravia-46-quot-full-high-definition-led-lcd-tv-kdl46ex520
   


Yes. DSE is a little light on information in their advertising.
There are a few clues though.

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All Sony ex models have both Analogue and Digital Tuners. No satellite tuner though as DSE's specs could lead you to believe with their specs.

Best way to check out a TV is a Google search for it's operating manual.


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  Reply # 483462 20-Jun-2011 23:27
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Not the best way at all, as the manufactures use the same model number for different products in different countries.

eg, the UK models will be cursed with a few scart plugs whereas the asia pacific models have some components in their place. Its only when you google the big massive long part number of the TV that you will start to get close to accurate information, and half the sites dont even get that right since they are just copying it off someone elses site.




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  Reply # 483481 21-Jun-2011 07:36
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Are shops seriously still selling non Freeview TV's still?





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  Reply # 483482 21-Jun-2011 07:53
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Why is NZ taking so long to put Freeview logo's on advertising material ?
How confusing for the consumer.




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  Reply # 483485 21-Jun-2011 08:17
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wmoore: Why is NZ taking so long to put Freeview logo's on advertising material ?
How confusing for the consumer.


I am creating a new You Ask Freeview thread this morning...




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  Reply # 483488 21-Jun-2011 08:36
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scuwp: Are shops seriously still selling non Freeview TV's still?



Yes. There are still lots around. Not to mention all the DVD recorders!

I wrote a blog post about this issue last week. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/7699

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  Reply # 483495 21-Jun-2011 09:11
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Some manufactures also have Freeview tuners, but don't actually mention 'Freeview' anywhere (ie: The Sony model you mentioned)




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  Reply # 483512 21-Jun-2011 09:35
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scuwp: Are shops seriously still selling non Freeview TV's still?



Yep, the warehouse is really really bad at this and should be ashamed now that an analogue switch off date has been announced. 

I guess though you can always connect an external freeview tuner box so they'll hide behind that.  Also if you're in a non HD coverage area then I guess you're always going to need some external box anyway.  Anyone using the satellite service is in this boat.

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  Reply # 483547 21-Jun-2011 10:58
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Not everyone cares about crap broadcast tv anyway. So long as it doesnt say digital tuner in the feature list I think they have done their job.

What is a problem is the dvd recorders etc that have no channel change ability for external boxes and being promoted with scheduled recording etc which genuinly will become useless.




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  Reply # 483606 21-Jun-2011 13:03
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sbiddle:
scuwp: Are shops seriously still selling non Freeview TV's still?



Yes. There are still lots around. Not to mention all the DVD recorders!


I wrote a blog post about this issue last week. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/7699


Actually the sale of  analog only  tuner DVD recorders should be banned..




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  Reply # 483615 21-Jun-2011 13:10
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old3eyes:

Actually the sale of  analog only  tuner DVD recorders should be banned..


Sounding like the green party there ban.. ban... ban..

No, customers need to educate themselves before buying things.




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  Reply # 483640 21-Jun-2011 13:41
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richms:
old3eyes:

Actually the sale of  analog only  tuner DVD recorders should be banned..


Sounding like the green party there ban.. ban... ban..

No, customers need to educate themselves before buying things.

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  Reply # 483655 21-Jun-2011 14:04
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old3eyes:
Actually the sale of  analog only  tuner DVD recorders should be banned..

I bought one 2 years ago and I don't even have a TV antenna...
The only things I record go in an A/V input.
I'm quite happy  with it... Saved me forking out for a t-box when they clearly don't work that well anyway!

So why should it be banned?



As for the TV without freeview.. I wouldn't want a freeview TV (unless I had no option). I certainly wouldn't want to pay extra for a freeview TV!

Don't the in-store displays mention freeview or not?

I've had cable here for 9 years and I'm not thinking of changing just so I could get more crappy free-to-air TV. I had to house-sit for someone for a night not long ago and all they had was freeview... I read a book!

If my cable goes out, I'll watch a movie!

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  Reply # 483687 21-Jun-2011 14:56
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old3eyes:
Actually the sale of  analog only  tuner DVD recorders should be banned..

I bought one 2 years ago and I don't even have a TV antenna...
The only things I record go in an A/V input.
I'm quite happy  with it... Saved me forking out for a t-box when they clearly don't work that well anyway!

So why should it be banned?


Your most likely and exception rather than the rule.

For the same reason as you should not be able to sell analog only TVs at this late stage of  life.  Imagine someone  going and buying a DVD recorder from  Hardly Normal  and setting it up and finding next year that it's no good.   Sure they can buy a STB to go with it but as I found out  you have to set both to record a program something that people will get pretty sick of quickly.   Consumers Guarantee Act??   I suspect not..

Now tell that same person to go buy a digital tunered recorder. TiVo,  Panasonic ??  They would not be overly impressed..




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