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  Reply # 483716 21-Jun-2011 16:06
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Surely retailers selling non Freeview integrated TV's must be sailing close to the wind as far as the CGA is concerned by now? Not sure how "fit for purpose" they are seeing as the signal is going to be cancelled soon.

Considering the expected lifespan of a TV is 5+ years if they don't clearly mark the TV's as analogue then they could be in trouble IMO.





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  Reply # 483742 21-Jun-2011 16:36
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From looking at dick smith's range, the only TV's they are selling lacking freeview are the Konka brand.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 483762 21-Jun-2011 17:16
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eXDee: From looking at dick smith's range, the only TV's they are selling lacking freeview are the Konka brand.

Plus lots of DVD/HDD recorders etc.  They shouldn't be banned but there should be clear information that a digital set top box will be required next year.




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  Reply # 483805 21-Jun-2011 18:25
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If a store is selling a 12 volt 19 or 22" TV without Freeview... and saying it's perfect for caravan owners - then sweet.
It'll probably cost less that a regular TV, and it'll work for people who go to camping grounds around NZ. They'll be able to use their motorhome satellite dish + Satellite Freeview box to get TV wherever they go.

Of course, if a punter walks in, picks up a box and doesn't ask staff re: features... then expects it to be mint for terrestrial Freeview, well, are they a muppet for not asking / doing any homework? Or is the store at fault? Part of me thinks if someone doesn't ask - they're an idiot. However if a sales person doesn't tell them when they have an opportunity, they need a bollocking.

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  Reply # 484069 22-Jun-2011 00:09
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Dunnersfella:However if a sales person doesn't tell them when they have an opportunity, they need a bollocking.

I'd be surprised if the sales guy didn't mention it during the sale, there's a chance they could upsell the customer to a model which does have freeview.

Saying that, some salespersons are quite worrying in what they do, so perhaps it wouldn't be so surprising.  



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  Reply # 484088 22-Jun-2011 01:07
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I am going to email the broadcasting minister to draft a law that will require businesses selling analog only tv's and video recorders to have to inform the customer that the device will not be able to receive analog broadcasts starting from September 2012.
Who is going to email the Minister like me?

http://www.jonathancoleman.co.nz

If this law came into effect it may mean retailers would just stop selling them.

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  Reply # 484136 22-Jun-2011 08:23
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As mentioned above, there IS a place for display panels with no tuner capabilities. If you live in a sat area or have sky then you don't need any sort of internal tuner.

I fully agree though that this should be made very clear on all products that don't include a freeview tuner, or in areas that don't have HD/UHF freeview coverage.

Analogue Hard Drive and DVD recorders can be made to work with external freeview/sky boxes etc via composite connections, but this gets quite complicated for most who really deserve a better interaction with freeview than they're going to get with older analogue gear. As above, they should be clearly labelled that the TV side of their operation (which I expect 80%+ use regularly) won't be compatible with freeview without an additional external tuner box, set to come on at the right time and be on the right channel etc.

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  Reply # 484264 22-Jun-2011 11:06
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I've actually had a Sky sales person try and tell me not to buy a Freeview TV, as I'd be 'paying more than I need too with built in Freeview'... After all, why would I need it when I have Sky??

So basically, he was so uninformed, that he thought consumers could go into a store for a 46" plasma, and save a few hundred by buying an analogue tuner TV...

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  Reply # 484336 22-Jun-2011 12:48
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Dunnersfella: I've actually had a Sky sales person try and tell me not to buy a Freeview TV, as I'd be 'paying more than I need too with built in Freeview'... After all, why would I need it when I have Sky??


So basically, he was so uninformed, that he thought consumers could go into a store for a 46" plasma, and save a few hundred by buying an analogue tuner TV...


Next time ask him what happens when the Sky sat gets knocked out..




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  Reply # 484626 22-Jun-2011 20:21
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richms: Not everyone cares about crap broadcast tv anyway. So long as it doesnt say digital tuner in the feature list I think they have done their job.

What is a problem is the dvd recorders etc that have no channel change ability for external boxes and being promoted with scheduled recording etc which genuinly will become useless.


Not necessarily - I use that feature a lot with Sky. I book the programme on the STB and then schedule the recording on the recorder. A bit more clunky than a MySky, but the recorder isn't DRM crippled - I keep the 60 second skip for ads, can edit recording and can burn DVDs - so it's worth the trade-off IMHO.

It is a feature I care about when buying, and still will after the analog switch-off. Also, some of the newer recorders can tune freeview, so will still work that way as well.

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  Reply # 487437 29-Jun-2011 14:50
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Possible case in point:

the warehouse

Now I don't know if that is a freeview tuner or an analogue one.  If it's analogue then it's soon to be worthless yet they'll be charging a premium for this type of device.

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  Reply # 487450 29-Jun-2011 15:08
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Jaxson: Possible case in point:

the warehouse

Now I don't know if that is a freeview tuner or an analogue one.  If it's analogue then it's soon to be worthless yet they'll be charging a premium for this type of device.


Its a philips, it will be broken before ASO happens based on my past history with that brand ;)




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  Reply # 487457 29-Jun-2011 15:26
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richms:
Jaxson: Possible case in point:

the warehouse

Now I don't know if that is a freeview tuner or an analogue one.  If it's analogue then it's soon to be worthless yet they'll be charging a premium for this type of device.


Its a philips, it will be broken before ASO happens based on my past history with that brand ;)


And it's got an analogue tuner according to philips.co.nz

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  Reply # 487482 29-Jun-2011 16:28
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richms:
Jaxson: Possible case in point:

the warehouse

Now I don't know if that is a freeview tuner or an analogue one.  If it's analogue then it's soon to be worthless yet they'll be charging a premium for this type of device.


Its a philips, it will be broken before ASO happens based on my past history with that brand ;)


My Dads 4 year old Philips 42" LCD TV is broken too. Something to do with sound over HDMI not working. I said take it back under consumer guarantees but he lost the receipt and can't be bothered making any effort to ask the store to get it for him.




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  Reply # 487520 29-Jun-2011 17:50
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Jaxson: Possible case in point:

the warehouse

Now I don't know if that is a freeview tuner or an analogue one.  If it's analogue then it's soon to be worthless yet they'll be charging a premium for this type of device.


On the box it says " integrated tuner" which to a fair few peole would mean digital,
but it's analogue.

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