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  Reply # 565096 5-Jan-2012 23:57
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kids would probably enjoy 3D (if glasses are reasonably priced)

There are different types of 3D in LCDs. Passive 3D gives a lesser quality but has cheap glasses. Active 3D gives a higher quality but glasses cost money. Some 3D LCD models are active, others are passive. I don't think I would bother with 3D if it was second rate but I can't comment on specifically how good one type is relative to the other. Usually plasma televisions are touted as being better at 3D but it does depend on the model.

While we're no expert at all, we preferred the slim LEDs and did think (from what we saw) the picture quality was better than plasma.

There are limits to how much televisions can be judged in a shop environment. How well the TVs were set up, which models are on display and the lighting can make a large difference. The last time I was in an electronics shop they were sending HD into some TVs and SD into others. There can be significant differences between low and high end models too. Often LCDs are set up to display animated demos because animation looks better on LCDs.

Videophiles usually prefer plasma televisions because they look more realistic. LCDs make up the majority of the market because their less realistic but brighter look is what more people prefer. High end LCDs are more expensive than high end plasmas.

Samsung and Sony use numbers for marketing purposes are that confused with the real LCD panel Hz speed. More Hz means smoother motion but smoother doesn't always mean more realistic.

How does Sony rate? Harvey Normans didn't have a 55" one but wondered of it was worth us investigating this brand further or stick to LG or Samsung?

A broken 55" television is not a cheap or fun thing to deal with. Samsung would be my last choice for build quality except for the no name brands.

Only bonus feature I would look for is Skype capability

That feature can be found in some Blu-ray players too :)

Lounge is open plan - very bright room with big ranch sliders and bifold doors. Could shut all curtains tho which we do anyway if sun is directly in our eyes

Alot of televisions don't cope well with glare. Cheap plasma televisions are notoriously poor at handling glare, but high end ones are much better. LCDs are generally better for glare but high end LCDs with the best glare handling may be above your budget.

Where the tv will be situated one couch will face straight towards the tv and one will be side on

Plasma televisions usually have the advantage for viewing angles. The viewing angle of an LCD depends on the model's panel type. Some panels are much better than others. IPS panels are probably still the best LCD panel type for viewing angles.

At present we have a DVD and mysky plugged into tv.

Blu-rays will look much better on a HD TV than DVDs. Make sure any BD player you buy is either region freed for DVDs or can be. Region freeing for Blu-ray discs is a much rarer ability.

The old original MySky isn't HD. You'll want HD going into the TV, either via the Freeview|HD UHF receiver built-into the TV or via MySkyHDi/+ if you're outside of the Freeview|HD broadcast zone. 50" is too big for SD-only unless your sitting distance is extreme.
 
Also use a harddrive and media player plugged in for movies

Don't use the supplied composite cables for the new TV. HDMI is a better option.

If I was in your position and looking for a 50 - 55" TV I would get the Panasonic P50VT30Z, which is at this moment available for $2,599 and comes with one 3D glasses. Other shops may be reluctantly willing to price match. The Z on the end of the model names is specific to NZ so you'd need to remove it to Google for overseas information.

Turn overscan off if you get an LCD, do it too with a plasma but wait a couple of months until it's worn in. Overscan ruins the picture quality. Any of today's TVs needs some adjusting of the default picture settings to get the best picture.

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  Reply # 565484 6-Jan-2012 19:24
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mcmillgd: I agree, I just purchased the Panasonic Plasma P50GT30Z from Harvey Norman.
Avatar looks insane on this TV.

I was looking at purchasing the one of the LED TVs from Samsung, but every store I spoke to told me they would personally buy the  Panasonic Plasma given the choice.

The power usage difference between a Plasma and LED these days is only 10-20 Watts.  


How much did you end up paying for it, I'm trying to convince my in-laws to spend a bit more cash and get this or the 55".

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  Reply # 565518 6-Jan-2012 20:49
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I paid $2200. for the 50.  

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  Reply # 565540 6-Jan-2012 21:58
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fahrenheit:
mcmillgd:
But after seeing the Panasonic GT50 I changed my mind.


Careful, you're name dropping a model that hasn't released yet. A 50" GT30 is not a GT50.

GT50's are this years models. Wink


ooo i didnt know gt50's is 2012 model. havent heard much about it. im thining of getting a new panasonic plasma soon. pref VT30 but might hold out and see what this years VT range would be like.

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  Reply # 565558 6-Jan-2012 22:27
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The VT50 was a typo dude...
Any new Panasonic plasmas may well be shown next week at CES.

Re: Advising the purchase of the VT30... be careful. The louver filter does a good job, but it simply can't keep up in very bright rooms when put next to the likes of IPS panels on the front of LG LED lit LCD's.

As an aside, I'd buy a VT30 every time a coconut... but I'd prefer to have it in a room with 'regular' lighting, not somewhere that has full on screen glare issues. LED's just offer high luminescence levels, making for whiter whites in bright rooms.

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  Reply # 565560 6-Jan-2012 22:29
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mcmillgd: I paid $2200. for the 50.  


Wow, that sounds like sharp pricing/buying, anybody know what the TH-P55GT30Z go for?

You've got watch Plasmas in those really well lit rooms though, but may not be an issues if all watching at night mostly.

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  Reply # 565570 6-Jan-2012 22:51
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ashnizzle:
ooo i didnt know gt50's is 2012 model. havent heard much about it. im thining of getting a new panasonic plasma soon. pref VT30 but might hold out and see what this years VT range would be like.


Dunnersfella: The VT50 was a typo dude...


You'd think it would be a typo, but oddly enough, no.

The word for 'Four' in Japanese is similar to the word for 'death' and Japanese companies tend not to use it. Panasonic are skipping right over it. There will not be a '40' anything this year.

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  Reply # 565574 6-Jan-2012 22:59
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What about the PT-AE4000 projector from Panasonic?
Or the KDLEX400 from Sony?
Or the DMP-BD45GN-K from Panasonic?

4's seem to crop up all over the place...

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  Reply # 565579 6-Jan-2012 23:05
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Dunnersfella: What about the PT-AE4000 projector from Panasonic?
Or the KDLEX400 from Sony?
Or the DMP-BD45GN-K from Panasonic?

4's seem to crop up all over the place...


I don't know, I'm just the messenger. It seems pretty crazy to me, but thats their excuse and we'll see the lineup next week.

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  Reply # 565590 6-Jan-2012 23:26
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fahrenheit:You'd think it would be a typo, but oddly enough, no.

The word for 'Four' in Japanese is similar to the word for 'death' and Japanese companies tend not to use it. Panasonic are skipping right over it. There will not be a '40' anything this year.


It's actually in Chinese, but a lot of non-Chinese companies abide by these superstitions. For instance I believe Nokia has never released a 4000 series of mobiles.

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  Reply # 565792 7-Jan-2012 15:18
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Chinese AND Japanese have a similar word for death si/shi, and similar superstitions.

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Reply # 565807 7-Jan-2012 16:04
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When purchasing LCD/LEDS over 40" you seriously have to consider looking to the PLASMA'S. Currently have 2 32" LCD Samsungs, 55" 3D Plasma Samsung and 2 42" Panasonic Plasmas in my household. I fell in love with the 3D Samsung Plasma. The picture clarity blew every other tv on display when I watched Avatar on it. HD tv is superb on the plasma as well as blueray movies. Experts would also advise plasmas as well. I still love the Panasonics as they're a rock solid tv.Cool

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  Reply # 565814 7-Jan-2012 16:31
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I prefer LCD to Plasma, and LED LCD is even better. I don't need 3D personally. I'm very happy with my Samsung TVs, I have 40 and 55". Get the best panel but don't worry about expensive supporting electronics, you can always add external stuff to add fancy stuff over HDMI.




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  Reply # 565934 7-Jan-2012 22:49
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CutCutCut: anybody know what the TH-P55GT30Z go for?.

I paid 2,760 about a month ago, not sure about the price now.
Great tv, HD is like watching film at the movies.

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  Reply # 565945 7-Jan-2012 23:08
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The 55" Panasonic plasma is about an extra $400-$500 more than the 50".  I think the 50 is better value.

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