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  # 601567 28-Mar-2012 21:20
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DonGould:
Pock: We get one of those ^ (the yellow tool pictured) with every 300m box of cat 5. I can send you one if you PM me your address.


/me puts up his hand


I'll see how many we've got.  

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  # 602137 29-Mar-2012 19:51
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Pock:
DonGould:
Pock: We get one of those ^ (the yellow tool pictured) with every 300m box of cat 5. I can send you one if you PM me your address.


/me puts up his hand


I'll see how many we've got.  


Just had a look tonight, only one spare one atm (sent to Jaxson), but we'll have more when we get more cat 5. 

 
 
 
 


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  # 602249 29-Mar-2012 22:43
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Pock:
Pock:
DonGould:
Pock: We get one of those ^ (the yellow tool pictured) with every 300m box of cat 5. I can send you one if you PM me your address.


/me puts up his hand


I'll see how many we've got.  


Just had a look tonight, only one spare one atm (sent to Jaxson), but we'll have more when we get more cat 5. 


damb!  Have to go have a little chat with my wholesalers and ask why I don't get such treats with my cable....  or I could just go shout myself one.






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  # 604564 3-Apr-2012 14:09
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DonGould:
Pock:
Pock:
DonGould:
Pock: We get one of those ^ (the yellow tool pictured) with every 300m box of cat 5. I can send you one if you PM me your address.


/me puts up his hand


I'll see how many we've got.  


Just had a look tonight, only one spare one atm (sent to Jaxson), but we'll have more when we get more cat 5. 


damb!  Have to go have a little chat with my wholesalers and ask why I don't get such treats with my cable....  or I could just go shout myself one.



They come with the Tycab cat 5 boxes. We will be getting some in, in the next few days. 

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  # 615800 27-Apr-2012 04:01
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I know this thread is a few weeks old now but what was wrong with the hex crimps that I've used in the past?
Looking at some of the links posted here the choice of compression tools seems quite varied. Do some have special advantages over others? Do they 'all' suit 'all' the different brands of compression fittings and does it matter which fitting you choose?

Thanks

Robin



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  # 615845 27-Apr-2012 09:03
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NZRobin: I know this thread is a few weeks old now but what was wrong with the hex crimps that I've used in the past?


I think this has been adequately covered:

cyril7: the linear crimps we are discussing are the best there is and have superiour water resistance, cable clamping and most importantly return loss compared to the radial ones


Jaxson: Because of all the reasons Cyril mentioned above, namely reliability, ability to withstand water ingress, to correctly maintain the signal shielding, achieve minimum insertion loss and for physical strength etc

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  # 615873 27-Apr-2012 09:45
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Seems like consensus is to use PPC connectors (like these http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/type-connector-cmp6ors-linear-comp-crimp-type-p-380.html), do you pro's out there use them for everything in a house?

Obviously you would want a waterproof connection on your dish or antenna, but is it worth using them when connecting to the back of a wall outlet? Or is it simply simpler to use one connector for everything?

 
 
 
 


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  # 616373 28-Apr-2012 00:29
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Jaxson: I'm looking to move to PPC compression fittings and just wondering what peoples experiences with the various common tools have been?


Hey I'm with you here, I get that compression fittings are the latest and greatest and I may well move to them myself on my next project but you obviously haven't used them up till now so have you had issues with signal loss, the fittings falling off, rusting?

The Hex crimp style fittings I used, had silicone gel as did the cable itself to seal out weather. The crimp was NOT coming off without destroying the cable, didn't rust and had no problem passing the signal, so suddenly they're no good because of.....? I've had no problems when I've used them and wondered if you had?



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  # 617254 30-Apr-2012 09:40
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NZRobin The Hex crimp style fittings I used, had silicone gel as did the cable itself to seal out weather. The crimp was NOT coming off without destroying the cable, didn't rust and had no problem passing the signal, so suddenly they're no good because of.....?


I'm not saying they are no good, simply technology has rolled along now and linear compression is better, for one because it continuously clamps right around the cable.  I did have some connections that would slide off fairly easily, despite being clamped correctly and selected for the right cable size etc.  If you were/are getting good results from a hex crimp then that's fine, no ones coming to arrest you for still using it Smile

I used the gel filled units too but took rather extreme measures to ensure they were water proof as well.  I guess the deal is simply that for the same amount of effort you are producing a system whereby the components performance is maximised over the hex crimp approach.  Hex crimping will work, just as screw on attachments will work too, but SKY for instance no longer supports this approach, it's not the industry best practise any more.

Sales blurb wise, compression connectors offer greater Shield Connection integrity, Bandwidth, Interference Rejection and Impedance matching when compared to their Hex Crimp counterparts.

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  # 617615 30-Apr-2012 20:04
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nickb800: Seems like consensus is to use PPC connectors (like these http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/type-connector-cmp6ors-linear-comp-crimp-type-p-380.html), do you pro's out there use them for everything in a house?

Obviously you would want a waterproof connection on your dish or antenna, but is it worth using them when connecting to the back of a wall outlet? Or is it simply simpler to use one connector for everything?


I have just finished wiring up my new place and used them throughout. For the price and job they do, and considering how easy they are to use [even for a relative novice like mysef] I think they're fantastic connectors. In the past I've used screw on connectors but never again for me - they were just a pain.

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  # 617618 30-Apr-2012 20:09
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mm1352000:
nickb800: Seems like consensus is to use PPC connectors (like these http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/type-connector-cmp6ors-linear-comp-crimp-type-p-380.html), do you pro's out there use them for everything in a house?

Obviously you would want a waterproof connection on your dish or antenna, but is it worth using them when connecting to the back of a wall outlet? Or is it simply simpler to use one connector for everything?


I have just finished wiring up my new place and used them throughout. For the price and job they do, and considering how easy they are to use [even for a relative novice like mysef] I think they're fantastic connectors. In the past I've used screw on connectors but never again for me - they were just a pain.


Great - just the sort of thing advice I wanted.

Im a novice about to wire up our new house soon :)

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  # 618932 3-May-2012 16:04
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nickb800: Seems like consensus is to use PPC connectors (like these http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/type-connector-cmp6ors-linear-comp-crimp-type-p-380.html), do you pro's out there use them for everything in a house?


So where is the best place to buy these? The freeviewshop price is a bit steep if you ask me, just like their hex connectors were - I did the whole house with hex connectors last year. At first I was buying them from freeviewshop for almost $4 a piece which was exorbitant. So I started buying them from some TM seller for a fraction of the price. They were every bit as good quality wise, and a fraction of the price.

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  # 618957 3-May-2012 16:47
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Oubadah:

So where is the best place to buy these? The freeviewshop price is a bit steep if you ask me, just like their hex connectors were - I did the whole house with hex connectors last year. At first I was buying them from freeviewshop for almost $4 a piece which was exorbitant. So I started buying them from some TM seller for a fraction of the price. They were every bit as good quality wise, and a fraction of the price.


Well, for me, I buy mine from this trader on trademe.
$1 per compression fitting (50x bag).

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-470380226.htm




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  # 619047 3-May-2012 20:34
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dolsen:
Well, for me, I buy mine from this trader on trademe.
$1 per compression fitting (50x bag).

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-470380226.htm


I've bought connectors, an LNB, and a bracket from this supplier and have no qualms about recommending them too.

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  # 619094 3-May-2012 22:03
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dolsen:
Oubadah:

So where is the best place to buy these? The freeviewshop price is a bit steep if you ask me, just like their hex connectors were - I did the whole house with hex connectors last year. At first I was buying them from freeviewshop for almost $4 a piece which was exorbitant. So I started buying them from some TM seller for a fraction of the price. They were every bit as good quality wise, and a fraction of the price.


Well, for me, I buy mine from this trader on trademe.
$1 per compression fitting (50x bag).

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/cables-aerials/auction-470380226.htm


Actually, looking through my gmail I see that 'rebecca151' is the seller whom I purchased my later hex connectors from.

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