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Topic # 113315 13-Jan-2013 17:40
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OK I'm looking to replace my existing HP Probook 4510S and emachines 10"  nav51 

The deal is that  this is a machine is for business, which from time-to-time involves a fair bit of rough travel. The probook is too large/heavy to travel with, the emachine  is pretty underpowered and can't handle doing any photo processing, never mind video which I would like to have the option on the road. 

With win8 and toch coming to laptops not just tablets - I have a feeling it might be the time time to upgrade  the probook is over 3 years old and the emachines is over 2 years old. From what's selling on Trademe - I can probably get around $500 for the probook and $150 for the emachine - which would be useful contribution to a new machine. 

What I need from a machine is: 
* at least as powerful as my existing machine which is a Intel core duo T6510 2.1GHZ 4GB memory 
* touch - I may be wrong - but it's hugely appealing - particulary the easy zoom feature for surfing and for image work 
* light - the emachine is 1kg - but I am prepared to carry up to 1.8kg 
* I'd really prefer a matt screen, shiny screens are a pain, I do sometime want to use it in warm tropical countries near beaches - and this can be an issue - however I can't find a matt screen anywhere - is it not possible with touch? 
* 13" or 14" - I have a large external monitor so I can live with the smaller screen on the laptop 
* must be fast enough to handle my multi-tasking - I am very capable of having around 6-10 programs running simulatenously 
* ability to do some basic video editing - I - I use moviemaker - but may upgrade to Adobe Premier Elements 
* ability to do image editing - but obviously the video editing requirement covers this! 
* budget - under $2000 - preferably $1700 
* reliable - this is for work, not just play - on the other hand I may get it on lease to minimise this risk 
* needs to connect to an existing monitor which has VGA and DVI ports only 
* USB3 seems like a sensible bit of future proofing 

What doesn't matter to me is: 
* disk space - I am happy to add externals as required 
* looks - who cares so long as it's functional 
* keyboard - I usually use an external keyboard, can can type on practically anything 
* battery life -they all seem to have awesome battery life 4 hours plus  - I've lived with the 2 hours I get on the emachine and that's fine, it's inability to run more than 1 program at the time which irritates. 
* optical drive - have access to one on my partner's machine at home - hardly ever use it as most of the software I use is online. 

I'm quite in lust over the Samsung Series 5 Ultra Touch http://www.cnet.com/laptops/samsung-series-5-ultra/4505-3121_7-35427779.html and the Sony Vaio T13 Touch http://www.cnet.com/laptops/sony-vaio-t13-ultrabook/4505-3121_7-35483939.html  

I normally buy  HP - mainly because I've found them reliable - but the envy 14" touchscreen seems a bit expensive compared to these to (it's essentailly the same spec as the samsung which $1699 at NOel Leemings - while the HP is $1799 with only 4GB and so once you go to 8GB is will cost nearly $2k) http://www.cnet.com/laptops/hp-envy-touchsmart-ultrabook/4505-3121_7-35427782.html 

Would love to hear anyone's opinions - on these 3 (and even if I've over-looked another contender) I keep going around in circles! 

Particularly pros/cons of going entirely solid state - the Sony compared to the hybrid drives of the other two. The salesman said that the SSDs can fail more easily because of the lack of a fan. On the other hand the Sony seems to come out bestter than the Envy on photoshop tests (they don't seem to have tested the Samsung unfortunately) 

Memory - I'm assuming I need 8GB - with running Windows 8 plus my desire to do many things at the same time, particularly the video/image work 8GB seems wise? Am I right? 










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  Reply # 744140 13-Jan-2013 18:09
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Your specs and requirements are screaming for Lenovo X1 Carbon Touch. Have a read of engadget review for this model. Only touch screen windows 8 ultrabook which has anti glare film on it to make it work like a matte screen. I have one on order as well.

Got i5, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 8 for NZ$1900 Incl GST. This was when it was on special. It was on special at this price last week. Will be on special again prob again next weekend.

Samsung Series 7 Ultra announced at CES 2013 is also very good looking.




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  Reply # 744164 13-Jan-2013 18:47
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If you can find a ultra book with two user accessible ram modules, you should be able to upgrade to 16GB(2x8GB) after the fact, I find 16GB essential headroom for photo work.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 744323 13-Jan-2013 23:15
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@Bill where did you see them at that price? I'll check it out - I think I'd discarded it because of the higher price 


@macuser - so RAM is more important for images/videos than the processor speed ? 




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  Reply # 744339 14-Jan-2013 07:17
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lissie:


@macuser - so RAM is more important for images/videos than the processor speed ? 


RAM allows you to open multiple applications at the same time - so this will resolve that for you.

Processor speed is just as important. It's really a combination. Once you reach a Core i5, it's fast enough for most things such as video / image processing. I would recommend that you get at least that, with 6GB RAM, if not 8, so you can really get the full performance from the processor.

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  Reply # 744360 14-Jan-2013 08:52
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Another vote for Lenovo.  I've just got the X230 which is the 12.5" model which is a fair bit cheaper than the X1.

Buy direcrt through Lenovo and you get some good discounts - http://www.lenovo.com/nz/en/  Plus you can opt for Windows 7 if you want that way rather than being forced to use Win8.


While you're on the Lenovo site, check out the T430u and T430s also, bit cheaper than the carbon X1, but also a bit heavier too.

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  Reply # 744486 14-Jan-2013 12:59
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lissie: @Bill where did you see them at that price? I'll check it out - I think I'd discarded it because of the higher price 


This was 2 days before Christmas when they launched in it NZ. They had it at the same price almost 2 weeks later as well. Will let you know when they do it again which should be coming weekend or the next. Price also includes built in 3G modem which comes pre-installed.




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  Reply # 744490 14-Jan-2013 13:02
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Hope you get one with a good working screen ;) is that pricing off a NZ website or reseller or?



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  Reply # 744619 14-Jan-2013 15:46
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Hmmm the Lenovo only seems to have a max of 4GB of RAM which seems light, but then overseas reviews mention it can be upgraded to 8GB no mention of that on lenovo's site for NZ I do like the sound of the matt screen too. 

And I just saw a review in NZ PCMAG saying that the samsung has overheating issues - which is not good news because I do travel to warm places. 

Might have to wait a month or two more for the cashflow to improve. 

BTW WTF is it with Adobe pricing - although the laptops on Amazon are about the same price as local retailors - Adobe is well out - charging US$110 for premier+photoshop elements - and here is DEAL that it's only NZ$230 - might have to parallel import that! 






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  Reply # 744664 14-Jan-2013 17:06
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nathan: Hope you get one with a good working screen ;) is that pricing off a NZ website or reseller or?


Yeah official NZ Lenovo page. Have read few complaints from owners with dead or barely usable touchscreen on their units. Few say theirs is without any issues. Got a call from Lenovo today saying that my order has been delayed and reading Lenovo related forums it seems to be the case for few others as well. Think they are changing their touchscreen supplier.




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  Reply # 744676 14-Jan-2013 17:30
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I might hang off and give them a month or 2 to sort out the supply chain then How much RAM are you getting BG? 




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  Reply # 744685 14-Jan-2013 17:52
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lissie: I might hang off and give them a month or 2 to sort out the supply chain then How much RAM are you getting BG? 


 

Hopefully this is a valid link

 

The T430u comes with two ram slots, allowing you to add more memory later.



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  Reply # 744695 14-Jan-2013 18:08
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Hopefully this is a valid link

 

The T430u comes with two ram slots, allowing you to add more memory later.
 

No touch screen though :-( 




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