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  Reply # 1309192 21-May-2015 10:46
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BenjNZ: It's Here


Nice! 






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  Reply # 1309358 21-May-2015 15:27
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Sweet! Tell us all about it!
Especially how useable it is as a tablet only.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1309403 21-May-2015 16:49
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I love mine! Best computer I have bought to date.

Snap on the keyboard and it is a full laptop. As a tablet it shines as well. I thought it would be a bit big and heavy but it is great.

Cheers, Matt.




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  Reply # 1309412 21-May-2015 17:03
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BenjNZ: So I've just ordered the i7 256GB version.... Acquire had quite a deal including the keyboard/cover. I'll let you know if it can render a Solidworks model next week. Final question, at work everyone is still running office 2010. Will this run happily on 8.1 pro? Does anyone know where I can still find 2010?



Good choice.



Tbh the SP3 i7 256 is on the  "top 10 things I have purchased so far in-my-life"  list.


1) House
2) SP3 i7
3) Engagement ring
#) ...





Although when I talk to the missus its re-arranged like so...  wink

1) Engagement ring
2) House
3) SP3 i7
#) ....




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  Reply # 1309418 21-May-2015 17:11
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BenjNZ: So I've just ordered the i7 256GB version.... Acquire had quite a deal including the keyboard/cover. I'll let you know if it can render a Solidworks model next week. Final question, at work everyone is still running office 2010. Will this run happily on 8.1 pro? Does anyone know where I can still find 2010?




Win 8.1 comes with free OneNote 2013, and when you install Office 2010 it be default also installs Office 2010.
I found when I installed Office 2010 I couldn't then selectively uninstall OneNote 2010, if you are a heavy OneNote user there may be some quirks when both are installed?  Other than that I have no issues with Office 2010 on Windows 8.1.

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  Reply # 1309676 22-May-2015 09:03
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I've got an iPad for a tablet and a laptop running windows and I've been using both types of device since the iPad 1. Or since the first iPod touch really. Windows long before that of course. I'm thinking of switching entirely to a Surface so I can just have one device for everything computing.

I'm a bit worried how useable Windows is as strictly a tablet, given how good my iPad experience has been.

It's also time to upgrade my husband's iPad. I'm considering suggesting he try a Surface since he uses Windows PCs at work and home when he doesn't need a tablet. I'm not sure he'd like a Windows on a tablet though, we have his desktop PC set up to bypass tiles...mine too for that matter.



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JayADee: I've got an iPad for a tablet and a laptop running windows and I've been using both types of device since the iPad 1. Or since the first iPod touch really. Windows long before that of course. I'm thinking of switching entirely to a Surface so I can just have one device for everything computing.

I'm a bit worried how useable Windows is as strictly a tablet, given how good my iPad experience has been.

It's also time to upgrade my husband's iPad. I'm considering suggesting he try a Surface since he uses Windows PCs at work and home when he doesn't need a tablet. I'm not sure he'd like a Windows on a tablet though, we have his desktop PC set up to bypass tiles...mine too for that matter.




What do you use your tablet for?

Videos -I have kodi installed
Notetaking - onenote
browsing-  chrome (but keeping thinking of switching to ie and probably will when windows 10 is released 

when teaching i use the surface pro 3 almost exclusively in tablet mode using airparrot to connect with the apple tv and a stylus in powerpoint or onenote. 

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  Reply # 1309962 22-May-2015 15:29
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What I do on iPad:

Note taking is pretty huge (just switched to OneNote on my iPad and like it very much), invoice keeping in excel which is recent for doing on the iPad, I just moved to office 365 on iPad to see what it's like and to have to use my laptop even less (but then have to convert the excel file to PDF on my laptop, there is a paid app to convert file types to PDF for iPad but I don't own it).

Email, web browsing with all that entails like online banking, use for video streaming from the TV computer to the iPad- I use Air Video for that and I use it a lot, audiobooks, podcasts, contact book which syncs with my iPhone (what does Windows use for contacts? Must Google...) calculator, reading books in various formats, writing the occasional step by step 'how to' sometimes with screenshots for disseminating to others via a printed copy. I also use the iPad as a remote keyboard for the TV PC using Keyboard +.

Cloud storage uploading of bills and invoices, taking photos of people's computer settings, router settings etc., adminning various things like Google Apps, a server. Playing Words with Friends (the windows app has less functionlaity by far) the calendar with reminders is a must too, I really need it to keep track of all kinds of stuff and I really need the monthly view. I also edit a couple web pages with it. And I use photos on it as a reference source when I paint. I had thought I might start taking more advantage of the excellent speech to text it has too instead of typing so much.

The iPad does a lot really well. When I list it like that I realise how much I rely on it!

The laptop is for things I can't download onto an iPad directly, Photoshop and InDesign, using a scanner, making PDFs to email, making the occasional bootable windows disk, putting files onto a USB thumb drive for quick file sharing and backing large files up to an external hard drive or on occasion browsing .img files on an external hard drive.

if the Surface can do everything the iPad can and everything my laptop can and be as nice in tablet mode that would be great. I could have everything on one device that I can have with me everywhere. If it's just going to be another, but smaller laptop I 'd be better off just keeping what I've got and doing the occasional Windows task on my laptop.

My other concern is security. As far as I know with iCloud and a passcode on there's no way for someone to get my data if the iPad is lost or stolen and I'm not sure it can even have the OS reinstalled without the iCloud password. I did a reinstall on one the other day and it needed the password. I haven't been keeping up on what's possible with jail breaking. I'm not sure how good Windows security is as far as if someone gets hold of the Surface how hard it is to get into the data in it. When I used to lug around my laptop I'd cable lock it down. Surface is more thievable.

So this is why I'my dithering so much. The iPad is a terrific tablet and I use it constantly and take it places. I use it more than my phone by far. I wonder if the Surface can be as good as a tablet experience and do all the same stuff.

I guess I need to go look and see what's in the Windows store for apps too.



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  Reply # 1309965 22-May-2015 15:31
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I've finally got everything working...

The displays were a mission as they don't have HDMI ports, one is using a mini display to dvi adaptor and the other is using a USB3 to dvi adaptor ($100).
Still having issues with the resolution, but this probably just needs a bit more tweaking...

I found that when I was installing software initially over wifi it got really hot.
I had it in the dock with the keypad/cover stuck to the bottom at the time.
Since then I've got it on the network via Ethernet and removed the keypad/cover when it's in the dock and it's cooled off.

Adobe CC loaded on nicely as did Office 2010, (I didn't install OneNote 2010, and OneNote 2013 seems to be running nicely).
Our IT guru isn't here today so Solidworks will go on next week.

Windows 8.1 takes a bit of getting used to (from windows 7) but after a day it's easy to use.
I'll just get the hang of it and they'll bring out windows 10....

If I was doing it again, I wouldn't buy the Microsoft dock.
It's at a fixed angle, which is quite upright and not great for writing on.
I also need a grunty case (first visit is to the Aluminium Smelter down in Invercargill).
There's no way a suitable case will work with this dock, so I'll end up taking the case on and off, which is not ideal.

A better option is probably a generic USB3 port extender....

I haven't really given it a good test yet, but so far it seems really good.
The boys at work are a bit envious as they have cad stations optimised for performance, which means windows 7 with an XP look.
The difference is quite amazing, I'll never own a non-touchscreen computer again.

Regards

Ben

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  Reply # 1310031 22-May-2015 17:47
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JayADee: What I do on iPad:

Note taking is pretty huge (just switched to OneNote on my iPad and like it very much), invoice keeping in excel which is recent for doing on the iPad, I just moved to office 365 on iPad to see what it's like and to have to use my laptop even less (but then have to convert the excel file to PDF on my laptop, there is a paid app to convert file types to PDF for iPad but I don't own it).

Email, web browsing with all that entails like online banking, use for video streaming from the TV computer to the iPad- I use Air Video for that and I use it a lot, audiobooks, podcasts, contact book which syncs with my iPhone (what does Windows use for contacts? Must Google...) calculator, reading books in various formats, writing the occasional step by step 'how to' sometimes with screenshots for disseminating to others via a printed copy. I also use the iPad as a remote keyboard for the TV PC using Keyboard +.

Cloud storage uploading of bills and invoices, taking photos of people's computer settings, router settings etc., adminning various things like Google Apps, a server. Playing Words with Friends (the windows app has less functionlaity by far) the calendar with reminders is a must too, I really need it to keep track of all kinds of stuff and I really need the monthly view. I also edit a couple web pages with it. And I use photos on it as a reference source when I paint. I had thought I might start taking more advantage of the excellent speech to text it has too instead of typing so much.

The iPad does a lot really well. When I list it like that I realise how much I rely on it!

The laptop is for things I can't download onto an iPad directly, Photoshop and InDesign, using a scanner, making PDFs to email, making the occasional bootable windows disk, putting files onto a USB thumb drive for quick file sharing and backing large files up to an external hard drive or on occasion browsing .img files on an external hard drive.

if the Surface can do everything the iPad can and everything my laptop can and be as nice in tablet mode that would be great. I could have everything on one device that I can have with me everywhere. If it's just going to be another, but smaller laptop I 'd be better off just keeping what I've got and doing the occasional Windows task on my laptop.

My other concern is security. As far as I know with iCloud and a passcode on there's no way for someone to get my data if the iPad is lost or stolen and I'm not sure it can even have the OS reinstalled without the iCloud password. I did a reinstall on one the other day and it needed the password. I haven't been keeping up on what's possible with jail breaking. I'm not sure how good Windows security is as far as if someone gets hold of the Surface how hard it is to get into the data in it. When I used to lug around my laptop I'd cable lock it down. Surface is more thievable.

So this is why I'my dithering so much. The iPad is a terrific tablet and I use it constantly and take it places. I use it more than my phone by far. I wonder if the Surface can be as good as a tablet experience and do all the same stuff.

I guess I need to go look and see what's in the Windows store for apps too.


Anything you can do on a laptop you can do on the surface pro 3

Most of those things you do with the iPad with the exception of the remote control you can do with the surface.

I would forget looking for windows "apps" and just use programs.

I don't know about the iPad app but you have been able to save office documents as pdfs for a while

As for as security goes do you mean something like bitlocker?

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  Reply # 1310298 23-May-2015 08:33
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Hey Benj, that's looking good. I had the same thoughts about the usefulness of the dock. I figured a USB hub and a monitor adapter would work just as well.

I think a padded sleeve for transport would do me. I'm fairly gentle on gear. My hubby, on the other hand, is death to anything less than armour plating. Just yesterday he killed his iPad. As usual, his timing is terrible.

Blackjack, I think I've ironed out most of my software issues. I borrowed my husband's cheap, work issued, ultraportable laptop (horrid little thing) which has a touchscreen and found Plex for my video streaming, Podscout App for podcasts, the windows calendar, the calculator...and I can use Microsoft 365 and my other Windows apps for the rest.

As far as I can tell, the iPad excel app won't save to PDF but you can email it as a PDF so that will do.

I'll look at bitlocker, thanks.

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