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  # 1464739 6-Jan-2016 22:25
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Nope! It is the best device I have ever owned. It is clear that the SP4 is better!




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  # 1464818 7-Jan-2016 07:48
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hairy1: Nope! It is the best device I have ever owned. It is clear that the SP4 is better!

What!? Even better than the FireTV!!??
:) If you manage to get your good lady wife to approve an SP4 I'd appreciate first dibs on your SP3 if you're not handing it down to the nippers.
BTW is that the fibre men I see in your street?? Hopefully they'll be round the corner into mine soon.




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  # 1464911 7-Jan-2016 09:52
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Lias: I wanted one.. then I looked at the prices.

No.. Just no.. I'm not paying extortionate Apple like prices, no matter HOW nice they are.

I mean for gods sake you can get a top end Sager gaming notebook with vastly superior specs for less than that top i7.






vastly superior specs?

3:2 aspect ratio screen
267 PPI
2,763 x 1,824 screen
8.45mm thin
786gm
digital pen stylus
2n1 detachable design
Windows Hello IR camera

its all about choice, choice in form factor, price, OEM, screen size etc

Clearly Surface has a place in the market, we're selling US$4B a year worth of them.

You might not see value, but a lot do

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  # 1464914 7-Jan-2016 09:53
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What is surprising is that the Microsoft store prices are significantly cheaper than PBTech's. PB's monopoly will soon end with the Surface Book!

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  # 1464934 7-Jan-2016 10:07
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heavenlywild: What is surprising is that the Microsoft store prices are significantly cheaper than PBTech's. PB's monopoly will soon end with the Surface Book!


I bet when they start actually shipping from the NZ site PB Tech will drop their prices...  until then they can charge what they like. 

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  # 1464943 7-Jan-2016 10:17
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sidefx:
heavenlywild: What is surprising is that the Microsoft store prices are significantly cheaper than PBTech's. PB's monopoly will soon end with the Surface Book!


I bet when they start actually shipping from the NZ site PB Tech will drop their prices...  until then they can charge what they like. 


It'll be interesting to see how much they do drop it by.

Is their current stock parallel imported then?

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  # 1464944 7-Jan-2016 10:17
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I have a spare SurfaceBook if anyone wants one soon prior to formal NZ launch.

It is 6th Gen Core i5, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 13.3" PixelSense 3000x2000 pixel display, etc.

If interested, please DM me.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1464999 7-Jan-2016 11:08
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heavenlywild:
sidefx:
heavenlywild: What is surprising is that the Microsoft store prices are significantly cheaper than PBTech's. PB's monopoly will soon end with the Surface Book!


I bet when they start actually shipping from the NZ site PB Tech will drop their prices...  until then they can charge what they like. 


It'll be interesting to see how much they do drop it by.

Is their current stock parallel imported then?


Surface Book is not released in NZ. so by definition, it's parallel imported.

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  # 1465267 7-Jan-2016 16:37
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I bought the SP4 i7 16GB 256GB last week from Harvey Norman and so far have been really impressed with it, after all the windows updates I get 5-6 hours battery life with general use(Web browsing and a couple of games). Before the updates it was only a couple of hours. One bug I have found is Windows Hello doesn't let the device sleep so it gets hot very quickly and ruins the battery life, the only way to fix this is to disable Hello which is a shame because I found it rather useful.

Gaming wise it happily plays Rocket League on Medium settings, i haven't had time to test any other games yet.

Need to find a nice case or sleeve for it now.

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nathan:

Surface Book is not released in NZ. so by definition, it's parallel imported.


I thought it released yesterday?? Noel Leeming put it up online yesterday (https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/surfacebook) and they are saying late January online. I called my local store and they said the 28th was the 'street date' whatever that means?

Edit: Microsoft's online store said 28th too??

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  # 1465357 7-Jan-2016 19:42
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antonknee:
nathan:

Surface Book is not released in NZ. so by definition, it's parallel imported.


I thought it released yesterday?? Noel Leeming put it up online yesterday (https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/surfacebook) and they are saying late January online. I called my local store and they said the 28th was the 'street date' whatever that means?

Edit: Microsoft's online store said 28th too??


Another few weeks to go then?

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  # 1465473 7-Jan-2016 22:56
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Krishant007: i had a good play with the SP4 when I was in one of the shops. It seems like a very nice device indeed. Something I would definitely consider as a replacement for my macbook air for travels and portability. What is the best deal people have seen on the SP4 with keyboard (in my opinion, the keyboard should be included with the Surface)


I sold a Macbook Pro to get one and I like it a lot.

It has a few things I would prefer to change - such as adding at least one more USB 3 (or preferably Thunderbolt). Battery life is adequate but not awesome - although IIRC Nathan said that there was a firmware update due in the New Year that would improve that. Fan can be a bit noisy if you're running graphics intensive things like games. Not for normal computing use though. The apps can be a bit hit an miss and telling which ones are good and which dross within the same type can be tricky. Some kind of lock on the power button would be useful - sometimes I hold it in tablet mode in my left hand, with the base in the crook of my elbow and my fingers often accidentally press the power button, which sleeps it rather annoyingly at inconvenient moments!

Overall it's very good, and faster in use than my 16gb i7 MBP was with Lightroom and Photoshop.

I like being able to write on it - although I can see the glass bend under the pen as I do and that is very disconcerting...!





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There has been reports of backlight bleed on many SP4s. Can anyone with a SP4 comment on this?

Apparently Microsoft are aware of this issue and has rectified it in their newer stocks.

http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-surface-pro-4/401864-surface-pro-4-backlight-bleed-microsoft-aware-apparently-fixed-issue.html

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  # 1466951 10-Jan-2016 12:53
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heavenlywild: There has been reports of backlight bleed on many SP4s. Can anyone with a SP4 comment on this?

Apparently Microsoft are aware of this issue and has rectified it in their newer stocks.

http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-surface-pro-4/401864-surface-pro-4-backlight-bleed-microsoft-aware-apparently-fixed-issue.html


On boot there is some bleeding around the edges, mostly around the camera for some reason but I just tried a black full screen image and there was no noticeable bleeding.

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  # 1466959 10-Jan-2016 13:19
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heavenlywild: There has been reports of backlight bleed on many SP4s. Can anyone with a SP4 comment on this?

Apparently Microsoft are aware of this issue and has rectified it in their newer stocks.

http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-surface-pro-4/401864-surface-pro-4-backlight-bleed-microsoft-aware-apparently-fixed-issue.html


On boot there is some bleeding around the edges, mostly around the camera for some reason but I just tried a black full screen image and there was no noticeable bleeding.


Thanks, good to know. What about when playing a video?

 

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